The Lord Ruler was just too powerful and him trying to run would've destroyed any of the rebellion he was trying to build. In this novella covering the events of the first Mistborn trilogy, Kelsier is trapped in the Well of Ascension following his death. [71] He was hours away near Southern Scadrian when Telsin planned to send a bomb on Elendel, and tasked Moonlight, TwinSoul, and Marasi to take care of it. A women by the codename of Codenames Are Stupid, opens communication with the leader of the Ghostbloods by the means of a seon, which shows Kelsier on an airship travelling to Elendel. On the battlefield, Kaladin would be more likely to win. A discussion means you have twosides, and you literally just asked one side to leave and move along.. The reason he would fit well as an Edgedancer is mainly because of what he picked up from Mare regarding restoring the world to the time of flowers and greenery. [42] For a period, he did not fully respect or believe Leras's divinity, but over time he came to respect him more. Mistborn Era 2 takes place 341 years after the events in the original trilogy, but theres another little story that we hope youve also read that takes place between themMistborn: Secret History. [78][34] At the time of meeting, he saw Kelsier as a wild card that he didn't want to deal with. lets delve into that a little more deeply, shall we? For more details, see our spoiler policy. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. [8], Kelsier has a Hemalurgic spike in his right eye socket,[32] which he acquires sometime after the Catacendre. Kelsier authorizes the engagement of all agents in Elendel to help in any way possible, and has Twinsoul and Moonlight accompany Marasi to Autonomy's army from marching into Scadrial. With his newly awakened Mistborn powers, Kelsier killed the guards and escaped the Pits of Hathsin, murdering all the nobility and skaa who had chosen to become guards he encountered in his vicinity. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. While held in an Elendel jail, Suit was visited by a mysterious creature with red eyes. He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. After Elendel was saved, Kelsier talked with Harmony, asking him to lead Scadrial into a new technological and Metalborn age so they may be better prepared for future threats and Autonomy's return.[22]. I dont mean to sound aggravated or anything. Elend lived with the weight of not being the man the people wanted. Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. Once he is freed from the Well along with Ruin, he initially travels around through the Cognitive version of Luthadel, seeking out his friends. In addition, Kelsier is a competent warrior, defeating multiple Hazekillers and Mistings while outnumbered and disarmed. The Church of the Survivor, or Survivorism, is possibly the most organized of Scadrial's religions in this period, as well as being the clear favorite among the social elite and downtrodden alike. Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). Foopers. We do it because we want to. He has been described by Brandon Sanderson as a psychopath. He told Suit that the Set had decided that allowing civilization on Scadrial to continue was too dangerous and that they decided to remove life on this sphere instead. The creature then activated an explosive device, apparently killing Suit. (Aside from the possibility of the spear no longer being a symbol). If you dont have time for a reread of the series before diving into the new book and need a refresher course so you can go in with your metalminds clear, were happy to help remind you of whos who, whats what, and all those other wondrous Ws! He is a half-blood skaa with a father from the noble class. [51], From the Well of Ascension, of course. [14][21][27], Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. I cant find that WOB in Arcanum, but he definitely had at least one spike at the end of Bands of Mourning. As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, she is in a casual relationship with Wayne. Be. Even the church of the survivor would be virtually the same. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. It reacts explosively to water. Waxillium Ladrian was a direct descendant of a close associate of Kelsier, Edgard Ladrian. Leras is fascinated by Kelsier due to him being the first to punch him after death, and being the first to attempt to recruit him to their schemes. Gemmel frequently put Kelsier into life and death situations in order to push him to learn how to use his powers. Greetings, Cosmere chickens and Allomancers! They also have some sort of ties to. If Kelsier orders a person around, it is a sign of affection. I am hope. Although he had only come into his powers three years before the beginning of Mistborn: The Final Empire, Kelsier repeatedly demonstrates a level of skill and finesse greater than that of most other Mistborn. The Inquisitors' eyespikes poked out the back. "[3] He is referred to by Hoid as "the Lord of Scars. If youre looking to learn even more, I highly recommend that you check it outthere are also chapter-by-chapter recaps of the books if youd like to do a more thorough deep dive into the Mistborn series! Gemmel is Kelsier's mentor in the allomantic arts, meeting each other after Kelsier escaped from his captivity in Hathsin. With the spike removed, Kelsier encouraged her to take up the power, relinquishing it so that she can do so. Ranette: Waxs gunsmith and a Lurcher (iron-pulling). The issue with a spear is if the metal head is all the way out of the body, and only the wooden haft is actually touching. After Sazeds Ascension and Spooks rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. Wayne is also a twinborn; his skills are Slider (creating speed bubbles) and Bloodmaker (he can store health in his metalminds in order to help facilitate healing). And vapor in the air, confined to night. Luthadel [ edit] Dockson met his death with a sword in hand during the Battle of Luthadel. They went to the hideout themselves just in time to save Vin from Camon. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. Steris Harms Ladrian: Waxs wife and Marasis half-sister. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. He/she/it has kandra under their control, is either controlling or working with the Set, and is apparently planning on annihilating life on Scadrial as a whole. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. We want to discuss this theory. The hearts of men are NOT YOUR TOYS. I dont think the head matters. [57] His bones survived the Ascension of Harmony,[58] and may have helped him regain physical form.[59]. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. It's the same power, after all. Kelsier also convinces Breeze, Ham and Clubs to join the conspiracy by offering a share of the Lord Ruler's stash of valuable atium as loot. When Marasi Colms discovers an agent of the Ghostbloods, Moonlight, she manages to convince her to take Marasi to a warehouse in Bilming to aid in the fight against the Set. I doubt that its a spike however simply for the reason of what attribute would theyspike into Kelsier. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. The vision, seen from Kelsier's point of view, showed that his spiked right eye viewed the world through Allomantic lines, similar to Steel Inquisitors, while his left eye saw things normally.[34]. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. Even with the Eleventh Metal, Kelsier proved no match for the emperor and was quickly killed by a spear through the heart. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. Later on, a group of Southern Scadrians traveled north in search of the Sovereign's Bands of Mourning, but were captured by the Set, who decided to seek the Bands as well. At the beginning of the novella, Kelsier is killed by the Lord Ruler, but refuses to pass on to the Beyond, and instead becomes trapped in the Cognitive Realm, between the Physical and Spiritual realm. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. [33] As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. So the head was likely stopped by the ground before leaving his body. We know that Waxs sister, Telsin, is a high-ranking member and that she escaped alive at the end of TheBands of Mourning. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. [43] He feels Ruin's presence during his time in the Well. Kelsier held Preservation for a short time but was bad at using it because he was a Cognitive Shadow at the time and did not match well with Preservation's Intent. Kelsier sought and eventually found the Eleventh metal as he believed it would help him to defeat the Lord Ruler. Throughout the course of the series, weve been following the underhanded machinations of a group called the Set. In Alloy of Law, we learned that the Set (through Mister Suit, Waxs uncle) was responsible for funding the Vanishers, a group who was kidnapping female descendants of the Lord Mistborn (aka Spook). Yeah sorry I meant the head of the spear. Its probably not realistic though. [6], Dockson told Kelsier about a young Allomancer girl Marsh had discovered whom he suspected was a Mistborn. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . [65] As a Pathian, Wax did not worship Kelsier, but his life has nonetheless been drastically affected by the Survivor. This one will be important. Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? Mistborn Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. [11] He hates all of the nobility and tends to believe that all of them are to blame for the plight of the skaa, although near the end of his life this attitude changes due to Vin's insistence that Elend is different and that not all the nobles should be fought, although his views did not fully change, and he retained his prejudice and distrust. Kelsier is described to be a middle-aged man with hawkish features and light blonde hair. , When several skaa from the rebellion were about to be executed, Kelsier attempts to save them. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, we learn that aside from the Survivorists, there is also a whole civilization of people far to the south of Elendel that worships Kelsier, calling him the Sovereign. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. He also searched far and wide for possible ways to defeat the Lord Ruler, and managed to find an ingot of the fabled Eleventh Metal (he claimed he had found it in the west, which is considered to be a lie. [24] After his death, OreSeur takes his bones and appears before several groups of skaa, making them believe that Kelsier survived somehow. When Kelsier is offered a deal by the rebel skaa Yeden to overthrow the Lord Ruler, he quickly accepts. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. And if we ignore that as well, Kelsier's cognitive shadow doesn't seem to have any of his mistborn powers so an extra hemalurgic power would likely mean nothing at that point. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. His cheerful exterior hides his doubts over Mare's loyalty, whom he continues to believe to have betrayed him until Vin demonstrates that it is possible to pierce copperclouds. At the end of the book, Kelsier invites Marasi to join the Ghostbloods after her success in stopping Autonomy's army to which she rejects after much thought. Now lets talk a bit more in depth about Kelsier, and what hes been up to. [39], The plan was to secretly build up an army of twenty thousand trained skaa soldiers in the Arguois caverns while at the same time causing confusion and distrust in the nobility to cause a house war. People tell me I can be downright frustrating! [42] Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. And the book clearly had the rebels shove 2 spears right through his body. So i just finished Mistborn: Secret History and in the Postscribtum Brandon mentions that he as a very clear idea what Kelsier is doing and will be dropping hints again. Before his death, Kelsier had tried to unlock the potential of the 11th metal, which was rumored to be the Lord Ruler's weakness. Later, Kelsier invited a team of the best thieves in the city to a gathering in Camon's safe house. When that happened, after everything he and Vin went through, I was in a state of sadness for days. Now there is also the question of why your comment was warranted. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). [7] Using Allomancy he was able to escape the Pits. First off, I don't mean to come off as hostile, but I am genuinely confused as to what this theory is saying. This information has the ability to potentially ruin elements of the plot for the reader. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. The protagonists find a temple to a man they assume is the Lord Ruler, in which is stored the allomantic and feruchemic Bands. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 8/3/2018 at 9:16 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said: On 8/2/2018 at 3:22 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said. I was depressed for multiple days. Kelsier protested, earning himself a violent beating, whereupon he Snapped. [69] Wax then used the artifact to defeat the Set and save the Southern Scadrian prisoners, using up a lot of the Investiture stored in the Bands. In the event of his death, Kelsier ordered his kandra, OreSeur, to ingest his remains, masquerading as a resurrected holy figure. Kelsier often kills nobility and the skaa who serve them with absolutely no qualms. Mistborn (Series) Personality Type: ENTP - 8w7 - so/sx - 873 - EIE - SCOEI - Sanguine-Choleric - EF (N) One of the most legendary men known to the Skaa. Issue with this design? Kelsier has been confirmed by WoB not to have a spike, so although he was being influenced by Ruin's plans, Ruin was not controlling his motions and therefore he did not have the intent necessary to perform hemalurgy. All I want is for somebody to clarify what your theory actually is. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. Marsh doesnt like a lot of Kelsiers actions and the way he handles the rebellion. The Well of Ascension: The impossible task has been accomplished. The roast is strong with this post. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. Even if he had, Kelsier died after being stabbed by the spear, but a hemalurgic spike would not kill: vital organs actually move to accommodatethe spike and keep the subject alive. [75] Thus Kelsier's mother was killed, and because of this, the brothers have a deep hatred of noblemen. The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. But was that truly the end of his tale? [24] This results in the skaa considering him a god, leading to the founding of the Church of the Survivor, which refers to Kelsier as "Lord of the Mists". The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. When Bleeder killed Father Bin by nailing him to a wall, it is described as a parody of the Survivor's Statemark,[60] implying that the Statemark depicts the way Kelsier died, impaled by a spear. If it did, when Inquisitors are made, the spike would have killed them before it gained a Hemalurgic charge. It is used to fuel Southern Scadrian Allomantic technology, including their airships, which run via Steelpushing. Kelsier's estranged brother Marsh also joins, hoping to realize his own dream of a successful Skaa Rebellion despite his disapproval of Kelsier's methods and leaving the rebellion when he had learned Kelsier and Mare had been captured. Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. [36] There he spent his time believing that his wife Mare had betrayed him to the Lord Ruler until he witnessed his wife being beaten to death by guards after she gifted her Atium bead to him. Does anybody find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is? Maybe Im just not saying it in a way that can be understood. It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. Wax, Wayne, and Marasi work together to take down Miles Hundredlives, a compound bloodmaker who has been kidnapping women and stealing aluminum for a shadowy organization called The Set. At the end of the book, the kidnapped women are still missing, Miles is executed, and Wax discovers that his uncle Edwarn, whod been presumed dead, is actually alive and a member of the Set. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. if TLR was spiked? Other 3D models from the same designer Janseloth All Throughout the course of the original Mistborn trilogy, he was been working behind the scenes to try to help Vins cause. Kelsier is Vins mentor and teaches her to use her Allomantic abilities. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. He infiltrated the Steel Inquisitors, and is one of the few remaining characters from the original trilogy who is alive. He also appears to be the only remaining Mistborn thanks to Hemalurgy. Please clarify. born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. [50] He stayed with her for a while after that but ultimately had to leave. They called you their god, and you were casual with their faith! Despite his disapproval of Kelsiers actions, Marsh is still willing to infiltrate the Steel Ministry as part of Kelsiers plan. The liquid in the pool you burned. [54] Secretly, however, he knew that Ruin would send Marsh to intercept the message, and was hoping that reading the message would give Marsh the information he needed to remove Vin's earring, which was also a Hemalurgic spike that was keeping her from taking up Preservation's power. Wax and his friends became embroiled in this incident in opposition to the Set, and Wax was almost killed in an encounter with them. He tells Spook that this healing was Kelsier's parting gift. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. Despite having amassed enough wealth to live comfortably, Kelsier continued planning more heists, looking for bigger challenges in each. Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. In fact, Im far more than just a mild annoyance. He didnt say anything rude. But strangely, he still loved him. All I want is for you to clarify your theory. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. A bit obsessive, a bit anxious, and a whole lot amazing, Steris uses her neurodivergencies to her (and Waxs) advantage by plotting out every eventuality and creating detailed plans to deal with any situation. In his interactions with them, he goes by another name you might recognize if youre a Stormlight fan Thaidakar. After Kelsier died, he became a Cognitive Shadow through the Well of Ascension, making him able to resist the pull of the Beyond. Though, in my opinion, I dunno if Ruin would try to forcethe Lord Ruler to kill Kelsier. If were talking about Kelsier getting spiked though, I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. The Set was not after the Bands of Mourning as originally believed, but rather the airship and bombs located within the temple. A natural leader, Kelsier used his charismatic personality to draw skilled and loyal Mistings to his own crew and eventually to lead a rebel army. Sixteen months later, when Kelsier was unable to get his weekly atium geode, Mare gave Kelsier hers, claiming that she had found two that week. We dont really know if the rebels that stabbed TLR used enough force to get the head of the spear all the way through his body so the metal head of the spear wouldnt be touching him. Major Character Death; Categories: F/M; Gen; Fandom: Mistborn - Brandon Sanderson; Relationships: . [16] He gifted Vin a mistcloak and started to teach her Allomancy. He finds Vin and Ham near the steps of Keep Venture and also learned that Dockson had died in the Battle of Luthadel. Dick was so focused on the rhythm of movement and moving toward the name, he almost missed the quiet sound of a cloak fluttering behind him. Prior to one of the executions, Kelsier attacks the carriages transporting the victims and frees them, killing a Steel Inquisitor in the process. Paalm has been working with the Set to attempt to break free from Harmonys influence. A mystery, to be sure. He was unable to do so and leaves the bit of metal for Vin, asking her in a note to figure it out. TLRwas gonna kill Kelsier anyways. His near invincibility as a Mistborn warrior fuels his reckless nature. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. And for all of you who feel the theory doesnt have a point, you can just stop posting. After speaking with Vin and Elend briefly upon their deaths, he discovers from Sazed that there is a way for him to go back to life. He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make unsealed metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. Paalm (deceased): Another kandra, one who posed as Waxs wife Lessie for a time in order to groom him for Harmonys purposes. 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