She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. Not that much if compared with the expected scenario. I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. But thats obviously not good enough for you. What she went through is horrific. Survey their public for disagreements wish the existing policies, and correct/modify them accordingly. For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. For decades it was even taught in schools that they were quacks which I think was said about anything that wasnt medicine and under the control of the AMA. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . And G) Getting the person to get in communication with the people she/he had neglected, but that they were in good ARC with, so as to raise their general ARC for life. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. Kaiser Earl Lynch. No one organization is to blame for this. Read Today's Notices. I fully agree; the church in general, need to become more compassionate. I am truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. She went from a Where is Leah these days to a Leah Remini is an awesome badass. I quote from it : Injuries, operations, delivery of babies, severe illnesses and periods of intense emotional shock all deserve to be handled with thorough and complete assists., Medical examination and diagnosis should be sought where needed, and where treatment is routinely successful, medical treatment should be obtained., As an assist can at times cover up an actual injury or broken bone, no chances should be taken, especially if the condition does not easily respond. Are they, really? If Leah and Mike would have emphasized specific instances of Disconnection and Fair Game practices, where only factual data capable of being PROVED was shown preferably with documents, videos, etc that might have acted as enough Media pressure for the church to decide to reform a few things, even if they would do it backstage, you know, without publicly admitting to anything. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. John Mckenna Obituary, What was John Mckenna Cause of Death? And what drives TV? Marvin Ernest Seibold, age 92, of Hendersonville, North Carolina, passed away on Friday, February 10th, 2023, comfortably in his home, with his wife of over 71 years, Helen. Is that true, though? I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. . And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. I just dont buy it, Statpush. Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. But no cult has the right to break the law. And if by prove them wrong, you meant specific legal actions (like a lawsuit) against Leah, Mike, or A&E for saying things that werent true; then the same logic could be used the other way around : If the church is guilty of soooooooo many illegal actions and specifics abuses, then why (except for Snow White and the non productive of ANY evidence, FBI human trafficking investigation into Scn) hasnt ANY law enforcement agency taken the church to court? She never returned to the church. "Because of something that took place earlier in the day, I am writing this tonight with a sad heart because of what has been going on. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). And there are drug treatments for depression and other brain illnesses which are sometimes-to-mostly effective, and which do not at all interfere with any spiritual development. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. But there are always 2 sides of a coin, and in the show only one coin is shown, and usually their stories besides facts, also contain half-truths, generalizations, unsupported assumptions, hearsay, and faulty conclusions. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. Actually Lauren Haggis is the daughter of Paul Haggis and I have no problem with her wanting to do a segment for her friend. Theyre telling peoples stories. This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. How can he possibly know what is on their minds? Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. I cant honestly say that I know enough about her to make a fair comment as to her potentials. I will look into this in every detail of it to connect a few dots, and to fill the vacuum of lack of enough information with facts instead of assumptions. Tayler deserved so much better! I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. Basically, its not a universal given that family has to be placed first in the search for spiritual freedom unless thats your belief. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. I would rather err in trusting others than in thinking that they can not change. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. This isnt just the belief of Scientologists. Tyler Tweed Obituary, A resident of Marshall, WI, has passed away - YouTube Skip navigation Sign in Tyler Tweed Obituary, A resident of Marshall, WI, has passed away Loss Angle's 1.78K. HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JULY 1973RB RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, ASSIST SUMMARY. Lol. And we all know that the opinion of the majority is the correct one, isnt it? Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. Perhaps we ex(es) have forgotten our Auditors Hat to the world, and became insensitive. Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. I have to say that I have little respect for your experience with suicide survivors if it results in a comment like this. Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. She admitted that she had made multiple suicide attempts in previous years. All right then, thanks for the update from Irmas path! Sorry, Al. I dont happen to resonate with that belief system, but I think its the right path for some people at this moment in their spiritual journey. But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Tyler is a 2016. But what we have from BOTH sides is the dramatization of a huge Service Facsimile (You are wrong; I am totally right), that totally blind both parties from sensible communication. Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. But first of all, what is meant by mentally ill? Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. God bless Tayler. Certainly, any raw public exhibiting Type III behaviour would be refused service.. But Lauren hadnt seen Taylor in 10 years. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore. NC, and Patricia Gayle Mills of Monroe, NC; and grandchildren, Taylor Tweed, Alexia Tweed, Nathan Tweed, and Harper Tweed. You seem to be on the fence. This was not a trap. Need help? Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right? I bet the if were the case of your own deceased daughter being shown in national TV while making you guilty, you would then think and speak differently. They think scientology is a criminal organization because they break up families. But I cant help but wonder if she would stil be here if her family was willing to look beyond the blinders of their belief and get her some actual mental health treatment. Never once was she mean or nasty towards me. But the rest of the post was about trashing it all as he ALWAYS DO. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. I am sure there are two sides to every story, and while I am not sure how supportive the Tweeds actually were, I am fully sure that A&E provided a very balanced side of the tragedy, given the most outraged friend didnt have the solid history of seeing Tayler in person. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. Ouch! Leah Remini is very aware of this, and is using it to her advantage, but in an irresponsible way, IMHO. Absolutely. The tax exemption could be either revoked or revised, and a fair payment plan could be allowed for any past payments required as a result of such a revocation or revision. Belief in aliens, and auditing, going clear and of course the extraterrestrial nonsense is ludicrous. As a rather usual phenomenon that we Puerto Ricans cant still understand, Irma went off towards the North just as it was approaching the island. vitamins, minerals, chiropractors, etc) to address a medical condition, along with some type of auditing program or PTS handling. How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! Searching obituaries is a great place to start your family tree research. Uhmmm, makes me wonder.. About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. This link is about the dangerousness of many psychiatric treatments by a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Peter Breggin : Now, many anti-Scientology individuals will say that Dr. Breggin works for Scientology, or is or was a Scientologists, just because his narrative is similar in many ways to the one used by CCHR. I am not anti ANYTHING, but I have my own mind about things without having to follow any sheeple or any narratives, . In recent times, Tyler Tweeds death was surfed by many individuals. Pseudoscientists in Scientology? (Dot) Dorothy passed away peacefully at The . It is a dangerous brain illness. The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. Mike does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when a Scientologist post a comment there at his blog, and a lot of commenters start attacking him/her left and right with all kinds of insults, just because that Scientologist says something (ANYTHING) positive about LRH or Scn. He was the oldest living past master of. My only regret is that it opens up Cathy Tweed to cruel second-guessing by people like you. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. So lets just stick to the kindness, love, and respect, shall we? Could you guys try to keep this somewhere in the vicinity of Cathy Tweed, Leah Remini and Scientology and the Aftermath? What if Tayler was your daughter? The Ryerson Index. But in any event, the world is full of false beliefs. She always made time for them while they played on the field . Youve just attended the funeral of your own daughter who committed suicide and a journalist calls you up to talk to you about it. He, along with Marcus Daly and Frederick Heinze, was one of the three "copper kings" so eloquently portrayed in C.B. Choose a color via Color picker or click the predefined style names! On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. This way, more trust can be built among Scientology practitioners and society which is what Scientologists must focus on, IMHO. He died on Wednesday 14th December 2022 leaving behind family in mourning. Bethel Baptist Church of Greeneville. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. And Ill take a look at those videos, thanks! On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. Getting rid of David Miscavige as Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is. `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. . Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right?. They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able.. So how ironic it is that I refused to go to a doctor when the ch-rch insisted that I go. And I also explained how they used half-truths, ungrounded assumptions, and PLAIN lies to support their Anti-Scientology narrative. Taylor met his wife, Angela Mondello Bass in 2010. For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. And in adults there are clear rights to association which can not be denied. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. I dont think so. I cant fault you on your logic. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. As far as journalism goes you getting all sides of the story Leah and Mike suck. I dont think that anybody here is denying that. At one point in time, this lady dared to question one of her husbands beliefs, which enraged the man resulting in a heavy beating and even rape of this lady. Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. Am I the only one that realizes this woman never actually cries she just fake sniffles. I used to think, Well, Mike is a supporter of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Thought, so he just tries to interfere as little as he can, you know. He enjoyed throwing with Marshall High School Track and playing tuba in the band. Seeking criminal convictions is not a correct path, as if after 67 years nothing criminal has been able to hold except the Snow White Operation then is very unlikely that this will ever happen in any near future. 1945 - 2023. In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. It was a crazy scenario indeed! Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. One of the spiritual teachings, which might seem contrary to Rons idea, is to not be too certain at least not in a fixed way. Hear your loved one's obituary. Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! Funny, I thought that I had already answered it. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. There are always at least two sides to every story usually many more. THEY TREAT PEOPLE WORSE THAN THE NAZIS! It is to THAT that I am objecting. And that would be one way of reforming the abuses in Scientology, and making Scientology technology safer for Scientologists. This is TV were talking about. Burn in Hell. And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. This is EXACTLY why the anti-Scientology narrative is so DANGEROUS; because it can turn good people into Fair Gamers themselves, totally neglecting the Human and civil Rights of those whose belief system they disagree with. Marjorie was the Owner/Operator of Asheville Pool & Patio for over 20 years, dedicating 50 years of service to the company. I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! Did Cathy make some mistakes as a mother? In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. I am a long time friend of Taylers and have been in touch with her over the last several months. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. {This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Please, be so kind to exactly quote or present the exact time tap(s) in that 2nd episode of The Aftermath where ANY ACTUAL evidence was presented as to Taylers mother Cathy Tweed having thrown out her daughter or disconnected from her. What Mike Rinder and Leah Remini fail to clarify in their Anti-Scientology narrative, is that LIKE MOST PEOPLE INVOLVED IN VEGETARIANISM AND NATURAL HEALTH Scientologists prefer to use natural remedies and alternative medicine (which is practiced by a PROFESSIONAL LICENSED REAL DOCTOR as they like to call them, haha) before engaging in taking medicines and using conventional methods. Search. 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