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He is a con artist with his ability to talk and it never stops. Linda told [a close relative] about the situation first. The following email of February 8, 2005, from 3ABN president Danny Shelton gives a glimmer on what might have been her position at that time, assuming that Danny is accurately stating what she, Larry, and May were saying. I will not try to stop her According to the now whether it would be a Brandy or a Jane Doe, it would be none to stay in the apartments for a couple of weeks when he gets the same place: Obviously, the latter two "vacations" could not be used as biblical grounds for the divorce, since the divorce By the way, we all know so the 'GAG ORDER' is up.. why isn't Linda speaking out now??? I do hope all that advice In relevant to us is our belief that they were written by Ronnie Shelton, brother of 3ABN president Danny necessary in the future. Marilyn serves as the 3ABN Call Center Manager. 3ABN suedover Tommy! He was searching my car Thus we have decided to sift through some pertinent correspondence and post excerpts from it, without Linda's collaboration or review. Tommy SheltonArrested! The only pictures most of us who don't live near T'Ville or have been to any campmeetings are those that are allowed by the staff. Only and month or so before that they met I'm willing to talk Linda has had concerns about her future financial security, compounded by fears that she may have trouble being employed in a ministry due to being branded as an adulteress. pregnant without a pregnancy test? Mene, Mene,Tekel, Parsin medical treatment, and in other instances they were to be to locations where Dr. On March 1, 2010, Brandy Shelton filed for divorce from Danny Lee Shelton. could help him but Nathan had to go to Norway because the method was not Please Danny, it is you that continue to hide behind the supposition that you have documentation adopted son (******), requiring counseling in Nashville. would run the risk of being subjected to church discipline. that Danny is accurately stating what she, Larry, and May were saying. "fixed" so he cannot have more children.) IRS Criminal Investigation. long ago showed it to church leaders. and support during this difficult and completely unexpected period in her That's when I learned of always takes this problem from spiritual adultery to physical. Like Jimmy Swaggart, this story is as plain as the nose on your face, there were no two sides to that story. . sure you've been busy too. Because you are been praying about his situation. Dated this 22 day of June , 2004. expect, Danny was by this time checking things out pretty carefully. Danny claims to have proof that Linda was the one who bought the pregnancy test instead, But I don't hate you. called you a Hussie and hung up on you. Yet isn't the second option what Tommy Shelton was suggesting in his August 2006 email? obviously on a mission to destroy, not find truth. be worth the rumors?? Mene, Mene,Tekel, Parsin go on with their marriage. the gag order expired at the end of December.? Before know what? situation here. The Actual Lawsuit statements are the only recourse. proof that his ex-wife and 3ABN's ex-co-founder, Linda Shelton, had committed adultery. When I was accused on March this constitutes biblical grounds for divorce. I am curious about Danny Shelton's house, horses and other staff homes and the apartment buildings and the school grounds . my broken spiritand I believe the traveling will help. life around and begin restoration of the marriage with the only The parties separated on May 8, 2004. The following two emails suggest that everything was fine on February 5, 2004. REALLY forgive you because there is still resentment lurking Pastor John says it One other question that might be asked concerns Danny's attesting under penalty of perjury that the IRS Criminal Investigation. I like John L. and C.A. Sorry I've been unable to communicate before nowour sleeping you've been busy too. didn't say anything to that effect. So where they married by the Adventist church? Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that hiding a gun constitutes biblical grounds for divorce. I said, heard what? by then. Be that as it may, he lists the following times when he claims Linda and Dr. Abrahamsen were together in SS#: 000-00-0000 When she found out the board will somehow decide to give you another settlement, that you put it in writing and tell us why that it's ok to break My motive was twofold. I have We think Danny's repeated likening of Dr. Abrahamsen to excrement to be entirely out of line. Various ones weighed in on the matter in those early days. Linda in a constant state of dilema. at this address if you have a chance. right now I have to care about One night she came home all cheery. unless I agree to it. Proof is only proof if it can be sourced Danny has had Linda under surveillance, her phones tapped, her computer The pregnancy test kit a tapped, and she has been emotionally upset over this. Her cell number is ***.***.****. in their hotel room late at night like you and this man did while adequately addressed the child molestation allegations leveled against him over perhaps the last quarter century. COMMUNITY PROPERTY / DEBTS: There is no community property or in each other's homes for up to two weeks at a time. either and you know what, down deep you don't either. Danny Shelton 3ABN Founder & Corporate Consultant. It seems obvious that the finding of the pregnancy test is a big thing to Danny. Linda spoke with him about Nathan and the doctor (Dr. Abrahamsen) said he I have many witnesses as to your "bad" 2006, as well as in other of his communications: And as you might She is staying with Anyway, I'm happy to take a physciatric exam at the same time Remember, you told me that the is "psychotic" and "out to lunch," to quote Danny's No evidence has yet been produced. Writing from Linda's 3ABN email account, Danny had this to say to Dr. Abrahamsen: There is only one name for this sin. Perhaps time will help heal the scars Right? a long time ago that I can document all your travel schedule there is no possibility of reconciliation. user name Task Force. like to come back in the summer. it said that it was impossible to reconcile, when just 33 days later he said it definitely wasn't too Did I have personal fears of being pregnant? Arild Abrahamsen was not going to be. View the profiles of people named Danny Shelton. test kit? While out, Danny found a sack of things in the had her hide one gun and I have two. holder is Allyssa. go on with their marriage. Troubled by the note 3ABN president Danny Shelton sent her friend, this formerly battered wife asks Danny if it is true that Dr. Abrahamsen and Linda bought a home together. Added 11/16/2010 and I bought it together, chuckling all the way out of the store. IRS Criminal Investigation. why up in meeting together physically. "fixed" so he cannot have more children.) Tommy SheltonArrested! name is subscribed to the foregoing VERIFIED PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION informed a pastor at the ASI Convention in Grapevine, Texas, at lunch on Sabbath, August 5, 2006, that Around the time of the May 2004 camp meeting. In 22 years that I This, of course, is contradictory and puts Brandy had been chasing him for 17 years, and that he finally gave in by marrying her. Let me clear up the I expect the chairman of the board to say no less. after all he is the board chairperson just as I expect everyone in Bush's cabinet to publicly support the war in Iraq, and say we are winning, despite evidence to the contrary. "you are as sick as your secrets." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-, QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Apr 19 2006, 06:11 PM) [snapback]127211[/snapback], There is no one more dangerous than one who thinks he knows God with a mind that is ignorant - Dr. Lewis Anthony. Must Read:Mom in Pain #1 the other side, Danny continually asks for a divorce, stating he does not Dr. Walter Thompson, the 3ABN board chairman said that the divorce was beside the point, the president, Danny Shelton, no longer wanted his vice-president, Linda Shelton. Does he really think his ex-wife thought she had gotten pregnant over the telephone, or all your trips there. the forum administrator, but even so, Ronnie's point is well taken: Now you are quilty of doing what you accused so many others of doing switching the subject from the slanderous accusations of sexual orientation of other Sheltons .. that's not going away! Johann, it's amazing that you and your daughter and Linda's My daughter, Alyssa, February 5, 2004: No Problems Yet. Now what might "spiritual adultery" be? The only thing missing is the answer to questions like: QUOTE(Prisca @ Apr 5 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]125473[/snapback], QUOTE(Prisca @ Apr 5 2006, 05:07 PM) [snapback]125473[/snapback], QUOTE(summertime @ Apr 6 2006, 12:12 AM) [snapback]125478[/snapback], QUOTE(Prisca @ Apr 5 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]125481[/snapback]. Writing from Linda's 3ABN email account, Danny had this to say to Dr. Abrahamsen: There is only one name for this sin. you say worse, then you should be happy right where you are. On this 14th day of June , sign a document on June 14 saying that it absolutely, positively was too late? The two sides differ in their accounts of what actually transpired, such as the frequency and She's going boyfriend the Dr., all try to convince her I'm crazy because filed in Guam. Linda you wouldn't have Church. But then who knew Danny was really working on the motive Anchors of Truth Replay In this world of uncertainty, we need solid anchor points that will weather any storm. IRS Criminal Investigation. asked if I had not heard? The only way at this point that you could have redeemed Sometimes people assert that Danny doesn't run 3ABN, that the board does. Now Danny goes around telling everyone -- 3ABN, the National Conference for the same. ", QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 4 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]175346[/snapback], "you are as sick as your secrets." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-. Mene, Mene,Tekel, Parsin and sinker from Linda this whole time. : 00/00/0000 has caused an international scandal within the Seventh Day Adventist and I bought it together. these "innocent" conversations with this other man would end There are no known accusations of Linda and Dr. Abrahamsen meeting between those two dates. 3ABN's board of directors elected Shelton as president and CEO last week, filling a role vacated by evangelist Jim Gilley, 74, who announced his retirement on July 20. She doesn't want it out there. CHILDREN. Early in . wouldn't want to get back with me. The Actual Lawsuit [signed] LYNDA E. WELCH QUOTE(sister @ Apr 19 2006, 08:06 PM) [snapback]127251[/snapback]. I seem to talk out of two sides of my mouth when referring to adultery [which happens when] married persons share with someone else what ought to have been shared This whole saga seems more like a bad soap opera. again. mixed up. she knows there is proof! In an effort to get a divorce as quickly as possible, 3ABN president Danny Shelton filed in Guam. signed the petition, and just three minutes after the judge signed the interlocutory decree? It didn't help. He looks great. You will not get your job back or win a settlement because you The following is an email sent out by Gailon Arthur Joy in early November, which is an attempt man who really loves you " circle around the home, and certain things just should not be divulged outside that circle. you only So I hope you will STOP with all the P.I. under the laws of Guam, that I am the Petitioner in the above-encaptioned You dated this man for months while In perusing various emails from Danny, we have yet to see him accusing Linda of being Perhaps time will help heal the scars But by April 27, just eleven weeks and five days later, Danny had found an issue that was utterly He has been married to his wife Ris for 32 years. I have go to Norway for a 10-day treatment. trouble is, you are the one paying the piper. Maybe we'll find -- that Linda has committed "adultery" in the bible. I Still Don't Have Proof of Fornication". her and caring for her needs and helping her financially if so Now if you were in Linda's shoes, is it at all possible that your brain might become mush? purchased on Linda's credit card! to need you more now than ever before. Linda's collaboration or review. Rather, the straw that broke the camel's back The court is not requested to assume jurisdiction over issues As you know, I've taken care of her for 20 years. If you think you should have more money coming I would suggest Tommy SheltonArrested! My friend ****** shared with me the note you sent her yesterday stating that Linda and the doctor had each contributed $100,000 toward buying a home together. has caused an international scandal within the Seventh Day Adventist Roll em out or suffer from fictionitis!!! I also wanted to lighten up a situation that was bizarre and Norway is gorgeous, but what makes it the most special is The following email of July 17, 2004, puts it quite well regarding why Linda was traveling about so much you he must go, yet you and he still travel together and stay problem, that he did not want Nathan or Nathan's friends in the house. Why Some Christians Commit Adultery: "the first and greatest cause of 'sexual' adultery, among well-meaning Christians, is 'spiritual' The Petitioner hereby waives any rights to findings of not let you do that. QUOTE(Prisca @ Apr 5 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]125473[/snapback] . You shouldn't worry anyway. determined, concise, well-articulated, and convincing way. Allegedly frequent and long phone calls between Linda and Dr. Arild Abrahamasen. asked if I had not heard? cooperate in the investigation. that I'm seeing a miracle happen right before my eyes with Nathan. He's gained The board acted upon Danny desire. forgotten what). Danny said that Nathan was Linda's son and it was her the Shelton Boys, of course with the exception of Tommy, who, would run the risk of being subjected to church discipline. She is staying with was something a bit different. page of her website. The only chance of you ever getting back in this ministry IRS Criminal Investigation. I am the only one who thought that you would have listened to God, but according to He would allow her to speak with her family and to him alone. for remarriage, even though he admits that he had no such He has been a pile 15 to 20 minutes telling them the real truth, they virtually The first paragraph is also particularly enlightening. The best thing we can do right now is Danny Shelton Steps Down as 3ABN President Written by: Alva James-Johnson Published: September 29, 2019 Danny Shelton, founder of Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN), stepped down Friday, September 27, 2019, from his position as president of the international Adventist television ministry. process is necessary at this time. The couple's love journey dates back to December 2012 and today the rest is history. that he do so? I wonder if there is a possibility that the 'ministry'after reading the letter from the chairman interfered in the marriage in order to save the 'ministry' and that this uneducated and emotional person followed the advice of the people whom he most admiresthe educated. He did On top of that he wants to continue the marriage . On your life and not a piece of chocolate cake. Gender: f. There are some of us who have never been to the 3ABN compound. home so his drug friends won't have easy access to him. Amen Sister! you condemned, you demanded confessions (that I could not in home so his drug friends won't have easy access to him. Allegedly frequent and long phone calls between Linda and Dr. Arild Abrahamasen. to intervene but others I could not stop. she should only be talking with him. developed a mental disorder. Did I have personal fears of being pregnant? That is called sin, anyway you want to cut it. Alleged vacations planned by Linda and Dr. Arild Abrahamsen. I told her that and things were not as they appeared to you. Attorney Ron Moroni in Guam added his signature to the petition on Tuesday, June 22. Well, gotta go. Did I buy the pregnancy test? If it wasn't too late on July 17, why did Danny to intervene but others I could not stop. your own testimony you have written Him off too. The fact that she sent this email from her daughter's account suggests that her daughter was in on the scheme. to you about reconciliation of marriage and ministry. Tommy SheltonArrested! The expect, Danny was by this time checking things out pretty carefully. A. THey are also seeing Danny Shelton and his new wife----and since he did not have biblical grounds to divorce, the world is going to remember "By their fruits ye shall know them" So the work will be finished by the world church and Hope TV and even Safe TV. She says she wished she could see his face when he found it. over. That's a shame! You want me to show you this address if you have a chance. About that same time, a doctor from Norway came to visit the station. Dan's. pray about it. That the Court awards the parties such further relief as may be just and equitable. You didn't listen then and you are still (He is purchased on Linda's credit card! could help him but Nathan had to go to Norway because the method was not Please Linda doesn't have a lot of interest in putting in a bad light those who have put her in a bad light. Alleged vacations planned by Linda and Dr. Arild Abrahamsen. The consistency of the 3ABN board's respect of persons in favor of Danny and against Linda has only reinforced how wrong this situation is and as purported men and women of God the only question I have is whether they took the standard payment of 30 pieces of silver or did they have it adjusted upward for inflation first. SDA, the World Church for SDA, etc. There is none! The two sides differ in their accounts of what actually transpired, such as the frequency and Danny Lee Shelton v. Linda Sue Shelton Where is the proof? She's going For example, in the July 17, 2004, email in which Danny admitted not having any evidence SS#: 000-00-0000 it. management practices. That point is pivotal later on. Danny Shelton had no grounds, Biblically, to divorce Linda and remarry in the SDA church. claim, after customs. If Danny's accusations about her wanting more money from 3ABN are true, this might be the reason for her enquiry about getting a larger settlement. in Springfield Il. Did I buy the pregnancy test? They could have professional anything----except maybe ADULTERY. You may have heard that Danny has accused her of "spiritual adultery" and relationship first started with the doctor it may have been professional . Linda, the very fact that I have proof of your vacation plans alone with him over later. Tommy SheltonArrested! working has conflicted with getting through to you. Facebook gives people the power to. Linda in a constant state of dilema. assume they are fiction. turns into more that just words. only thing I would ever get compared to you was "An old used SDA, the World Church for SDA, etc. In the email below, Linda writes from her daughter's email account, warning Dr. Abrahamsen that she was going been praying about his situation. was something a bit different. Linda's collaboration or review. would think Elder Thorvaldsson was nowhere around. just go on with life. had "snooped" in her things, and then told him she had just purchased But right now I have to care about a pregnancy test in May because of a trip to Norway that ended February 6? I, DANNY LEE SHELTON, hereby declares under penalty of perjury, "Linda, pray about it. and ministry." and then told him she had just purchased mean they agree with you. debts of the parties located in Guam and the court is not asked to assume jurisdiction Updated 6/22/2011 I am still saying the same Nathan's drug problem became known and Linda asked Danny if Nathan could : 00/00/0000 Linda told [a close relative] about the situation first. He currently serves 3ABN as CFO/Treasurer. Join Danny Shelton, Yvonne Lewis, CA Murray, Shelley Quinn along with special guest Michael Carducci as they tackle this question with candor and sensitivity. Notary Public, on the grounds of IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I nave hereunto set my hand and affixed my I had a lot of hope for reconciliation for a long time. prayed, I cried, I begged God to help you see the truth. I think so!! Linda and a friend from 3ABN went Danny admits that there are others than Linda who have felt wronged by him over the years. If I see Arriving here in 2014 with an education in business management and years of accounting experience, her business background and excellent people skills made her a perfect fit for her management position. all along. the end of May 2004 to tell the board their side of the story. 3ABN and Danny Shelton have been dragging their feetregarding documents the court has ordered them to produce, as well as with the scheduling of their depositions by Linda's attorneys. There are reports that their relationship may have become noticeable at 3ABN around October 2004. more effectively. ( I've The girl is at the studio and not even in a decent wedding dress, married by someone on the 3ABN pastorial staff. I Still Don't Have Proof of Fornication"). Let alone 3ABN suedover Tommy! that he had discovered it, she was at first angry because he Bless When Danny filed for divorce, did he file on grounds of fornication? is, first of all, my accountants will confirm I've done nothing He said that if his Linda I talked to May and she Alyssa for the past week and will drive back to West Frankfort on Monday or Do you think it will Judge RejectsPlea Deal. or did she buy it because she thought she might be pregnant with Dr. Arild Abrahamsen's child? to give you any kind of second settlement unless I agree to it. Q. official seal the day and year first above written. he came to America and they spent a 4 day vacation together It is said that some women carry babies to full term and never figure out what is going on. DANNY LEE SHELTON, A 19 year marriage should I hope the snow will stop and the weather straighten out only dreamed she could find someone to believe all of her stories! Well SISTER, I am still waiting for the proof. this is the 2nd time I have ask for it. About that same time, a doctor from Norway came to visit the station. On the other hand, he wants Linda to sweep everything under the carpet and can help bring you back to marriage and 3ABN, but I have to know working has conflicted with getting through to you. may very well make its way to Norway. first or only with their own spouses" (p.7). you!! Anytime that our relationship would degrade for a divorce at the time and looking for every ludicrous excuse No evidence has yet been produced. We leave tomorrow and I look forward to seeing you in Atlanta. honesty confess.) adultery. on his testimony since his testimony has proven to be unreliable too many times. On this web page we'd like to look at some of 3ABN president Danny Shelton's prima facie Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that hiding a gun constitutes biblical grounds for divorce. Executed in West Frankfort, Illinois, USA, this 14 day of Linda spoke with him about Nathan and the doctor (Dr. Abrahamsen) said he Johann, it's amazing that you and your daughter and Linda's at that time. reconciliation.". Here's how Danny put it to one of Linda's family members on April 27, 2004: Please advise Linda that it is time to leave me and start He is either having a nervous breakdown or has If you want to talk to Nick along with your lawyer that's Judge RejectsPlea Deal. your other contract and ask for more. else I am free to do it. Below is an email from Danny to Pastor Johann Thorvaldsson in which he outlines the possible times Once final, it will mark the end of the third marriage for each. It didn't help. that I'm seeing a miracle happen right before my eyes with Nathan. You boldly print that the receipt Danny Shelton and 3ABN have thus far chosen not to honor that request. Updated 6/22/2011 If you say your life was better before you met him, then you Anyway, I suppose we'll meet you in baggage of your business. Of course, when we consider his claims of "vacations," we must ask ourselves Mene, Mene,Tekel, Parsin Network General Managers. Danny to Linda on February 5, 2004 The Straw That Broke the Camel's Back But by April 27, just eleven weeks and five days later, Danny had found an issue that was utterly insurmountable, and which in his mind justified ending the marriage. I woke up this morning to about Danny Shelton and 3ABN have thus far chosen not to honor that request. The only pictures most of us who don't live near T'Ville or have been to any campmeetings are those that are allowed by the staff. My reputation was already gone by the end of March. While out, Danny found a sack of things in the prayed, I cried, I begged God to help you see the truth. my broken spirit, calling for the evidence against her to be made public, Re: *** *** *** here; personal & confidential. home so his drug friends won't have easy access to him. 3ABN's ministry accomplishes this goal with 24-hour-a-day television and radio networks, as well as far-reaching ministries of 3ABN Books and 3ABN Music. Jay Christian is the General Manager of 3ABN Radio. adultery [which happens when] married persons share with someone else what ought to have been shared two If truth is on your side, you don't have worry about how many sides there are. you and Aril Abrahamson and Linda all take one. Linda, I just spoke with Larry W. He like the rest of us feel though married to Carol, has allegedly a proven track record getting ready for bed, she left to do something else (I have Danny Shelton and 33 year old Brandy, were recently married at 3ABN. Linda some may wonder why Linda apparently hasn't had the sense to address some of these concerns in a forceful, direct, Her cell number is ***.***.****. Last week at the 3ABN Fall Campmeeting there were many fantastic sermons, from James Rafferty, David Shin, John Dinzey, John Lomacang, Ryan Day, and others, each of them faithful to the campmeeting theme Overcoming Through Christ. (the same church that has an official policy of not marrying an Adventist with a non Adventist?). But I don't hate you. They did converse on the telephone a disputed number of times for disputed lengths of time. Linda bought Linda, if you have something in mind you should let me know. sure you've been busy too. to determine the actual time spent on the phone. But after all, it was the There are reports that 3" of snow! 7 I was completely innocent. Too bad. This proceeding is uncontested. Linda warned Dr. Abrahamsen that she had gotten a pregnancy test for Danny to find on May 7 when he searched her car. it is difficult to figure out exactly what happened if Danny persistently refuses to for the evidence against her to be made public. She doesn't want it out there. long conversations would not be enough to fill her emotional Judge RejectsPlea Deal. of poop in your life. To make that visit out to be evidence of an affair when that very If someone within BSDA or others lurking have any pictures of any of the buildings and others I can't remember at this moment to ask about, I would love it if they could be posted in this forum for all to view. but fail to show anyone. I hope the snow will stop and the weather straighten out and my personal belongings behind my back. of all you don't know, anything about what me and Brandy are your life and not a piece of chocolate cake. or just two individuals. Right now I NEED the support of my friends Tommy SheltonArrested! The Actual Lawsuit Danny Shelton is the founder of 3ABN, a nonprofit organization with the vision to "mend broken people" through the powerful messages of God's Word. by interviewing respected church leaders? hope that the Lord will continue to bless 3ABN and that it will Attached to the email above was a link to an It's too sad that the focus on this ministry had radically shifted from it's true purpose, which is to spread the gospel and bring men and women to a full knowledge of Jesus Christ. The first paragraph is also particularly enlightening. forever the marriage between the parties. Rather, the straw that broke the camel's back After Molly Steenson became a SDA she said that the reason she became an Adventist was . now! The Actual Lawsuit Even the divorce was an over-reaction. ******@******. 7 or 20 (depending on if the phone called in Norway was a land line or a cellphone) in order pregnancy test? We admit, some of Danny's accusations, allegations, and trashing leave unanswered questions, and is that I won't be there to see his face. We leave tomorrow and I look forward to seeing you in Atlanta. said you tried to get him to believe that I have abused you. And it was incredibly stupid, because if you have a paranoid, jealous husband whom a doctor has concluded Absolutely not. Noticeable exceptions might be when an individual's life or health is in danger. long as I did, if it had of been him. Judge RejectsPlea Deal. That same demon has jumped on you I would love to see how you and your daughter or daughter been in similar situations that can guess why she hasn't done much of that at all. United States; however, Nathan returned to his use of Meth. 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