The 23-year-old planned to use. Are we going to see these injuries? Its virtually almost an unknown phenomena or to people who are working in the field, its certainly known, but theres been very little research on it, which partially complicates my Ph.D., because theres so little to draw upon. There were definitely, Im sure. Am I right about that? There was also the part of me that was terrified. And she ended up responding right away, and asked to get on a phone call. And so can you talk a little bit about your research? Theyre not on a website. Also, there was a delay in getting the Penn Police there because they didnt know where the building was. Is that just an interpretation or did they say anything that suggested to you that the fact that you had gone to a private school and grown up in an upper-middle-class situation meant that you could never at any point consider yourself low-income? Fierceton applied for the Rhodes Scholarship with assistance from Penn's Center for Undergraduate Research and Fellowships. [2], Classmates who told Fierceton this also noted the similarities to another medical emergency in September 2018, when a 38-year-old SP2 graduate named Cameron Driver had suffered a cardiac event during a class in Caster's basement. And so thats the low-income box. Its hard to say. [2], One day in September 2014, she told the history teacher about Lovelace's abuse. So normally the term FGLI, its just an umbrella term for both. And if you read it aloud, its almost exactly the length of the phone call. The Intercept is an independent nonprofit news outlet. ", Morrison said. RG: Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. I think there were almost 30 of those letters again, very similar to who had given statements in the past to corroborate my abuse as well as leaders in the FGLI community saying yes, we started this community. [2], The trust notified Fierceton at the beginning of 2021 that it was conducting an investigation into the allegations. She bounced from one foster home to the next. [3], Through her attorney, Morrison gave a statement, her only one so far, on the case: "Mackenzie is deeply loved by her mom and family. Her account was not completely inaccurateshe described as a foster child one sibling of hers who was actually the biological child of her foster parents, for instance, which she attributed later to not having developed her essay at length. Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes Scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school and scholarship applications.NY Post photo composite In 2020, former foster child Mackenzie Fierceton received a Rhodes Scholarship as a self-identified first generation, low income student at the University of Pennsylvania. And then very quickly turn to very specific questions about different instances of abuse. RG: in America. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. Mackenzie is currently suing the university. And then the other question was: Are you the first in your family to attend college? Asked about Lovelace's alleged sexual abuse, specifically an incident the year before where Fierceton, having fallen asleep in her mother's bed, woke to find him caressing her breasts, Morrison expressed amusement at the possibility that her boyfriend could have mistaken her teenage daughter for her; Lovelace, interviewed separately, denied all the allegations. In addition to reiterating many of the themes of comments made by her and her supporters in the previous articles, including criticism of the Rhodes and Penn investigations (the former of which Grim noted she was putting air quotes around when she mentioned it), she expressed a belief that her story had triggered a defensive anxiety in women like Finkelstein and White:[4]. I tried to help as much as I could. She did not remember what had caused it. Mackenzie is the soap's first transgender character, added to the series after Stone wrote to executive producer Jason Herbison to pitch the character. And they were the ones I believe and this is public now because Penn attached it to their response to the lawsuit I filed and I believe they were the first ones to mention that I had gone to private school and that they were questioning if I was low-income. In 2019, Fierceton testified in a court hearing that, in September 2014, her mother allegedly pushed her down a set of stairs and hit her in the face several times. I wrote a poem about the actual what the message was, which is so cheesy and Im cringing at my 17-year-old self [laughs], but it was about the healing power of gratitude. Enough bruises? Mackenzie told the police her mother had pushed her down the stairs and struck her in the face. She was abused, but there is not enough blood." And they released this quote-unquote report in April of 2021 with their findings. Again following the advice of her college counselor, she did not identify her parents on her application, since she was estranged from both of them (she describes them both as "biological"[3][2]). Penn's Office of Student Conduct recommended withholding her master's degree until she paid a fine; both conditions were dropped but a notation about the investigative finding remains in her transcript. Uh, my lawyer. According to Fierceton, her mother pushed her down the stairs and then beat her extensively at the bottom. But I got a bit of pressure from Penn to do that. [2][5] It did not disclose that it had done so until March. My understanding is there were two anonymous emails. RG: Right. Whereas white parents, a lot of times, it is much harder the bar is much higher to remove them from their homes because their whiteness or possibly class privilege or whatever identities that they have that might not fit a social worker or judges or whoevers involved perception of whose kids should be in the foster system. And thats again, like not because there isnt abuse or neglect going on in families that looked like mine, or biological families that looked like mine. [5] She posted it before Fierceton's release from the hospital, and once free began calling Fierceton's friends and former teachers, telling them that Fierceton was having issues and had made it appear Morrison had beaten her. She had seen no signs of abuse in the relationship and considered Fierceton to be the dominant personality in it. And youre getting instruction from a university official that thats how youre supposed to fill it out, thats what the definition says online. Penn student and Rhodes Scholarship recipient Mackenzie Fierceton filed a lawsuit against the University following its investigation into allegations that questioned her status as a first-generation, low-income student and survivor of abuse.. RG: or in graduate school. A 24-year-old Rhodes Scholar has left the prestigious program after being accused of lying about growing up poor, reports say. The show was mixed by William Stanton. The nurse also reported bruises all over Fierceton's body, in different stages of healing, considered an indicator of possible physical abuse. [2][k], While the trust had come to seriously doubt Fierceton's claims about the severity of her injuries, OSC declined to make a determination on that. Was there abuse before this? And we cant acknowledge that, so we then have to pick apart the other pieces of it, and say that well this, this just cant be real. verbally. How long were you in the hospital? There, she wandered the hallways until she found the history teacher, and collapsed. Yeah, I mean, so that specific definition wasnt public until 2018. And if you read it aloud, its almost exactly the length of the phone call. I had no idea what she already knew. Doctors diagnosed her with epilepsy, telling her the head injuries that had resulted in her earlier hospitalizations may have been a contributing factor to her developing it. Thank you so much for having me. I didnt really know what it was going to be, but I feel like its always good to have someone with you. How many people kind of fit that category that you interacted with, and how many kind of fit closer to your category, not just in your own interactions, but also in your research? I identify with the FGLI umbrella term and definitely being a low-income student, but I've never really called myself a standalone first-generation. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. "[27], For the Penn investigation, Fierceton relied on the definition on the webpage for Penn First Plus, the university's support program for FGLI students, which includes the language about the student having a "strained or limited relationship" with the graduate parent. Medical records, records from child welfare services, corroborating letters from detectives and lawyers and elementary, middle, and high school teachers, childhood friends, professors basically everyone who had known me. And: Did you report what was going on to your school? And you saw that playing out right away, right, when your biological mother was first arrested? And then theres the part that felt like: I have no idea whats going to convince these people if I gave them medical records, I gave them forensic photos of me taken in the hospital, I gave them again like corroboration from professors of like how I described myself, from leaders in the FIGLY community. And those other people are kind of like the orphans that we think of in Dickensian novels. In The New Yorker article, one teacher had written: She showed up at my classroom door with a bloodied and battered face and then fainted., And then, Rachel Aviv, the reporter also quotes Sherry McClain, who was a nurse who was assigned to you, she said: She had two black eyes, and her hair was full of blood. RG: Talk just a little bit about that case . And I told them I only have a half-hour, because Im working, Im in class, and were going to go through all of this. There was also the part of me that was terrified. She entered foster care only at the age of 17, after making a complaint of abuse against Dr. Morrison a complaint that a court later found not to be credible. Like what does Penn say when you tell them: Hey, the Penn official who helped me fill this out said that these are the categories that I fit. And thats again, like not because there isnt abuse or neglect going on in families that looked like mine, or biological families that looked like mine. And its mentioned briefly. After her mother left, Fierceton got out of bed, found a spare set of keys and drove herself to school. In November 2020, Mackenzie Fierceton was one of just 32 students to be awarded the Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford. RG: as a kid. "[25], "I cannot avoid the sense that Mackenzie is being faulted for not having suffered enough", Norton told The New Yorker. And all of us, no matter what our situation, are not completely safe from it. While Kerr noted that Fierceton's three weeks in the hospital was far longer than might be expected given the bruises that led to her admission, she also noted the absence of injuries to Fierceton's back despite having reportedly fallen or being thrown downstairs. Like you said, theres also the cultural stereotype of like Orphan Annie and Oliver Twist of what these kinds of kids are supposed to look like that starts so early on in, and deep in the culture or media that we encounter that I think really ingrains that into people. They demanded that the university remove the notation from her file. She ruined her moms career. I didnt encounter many of them in the two years that I was living in foster families. Mackenzie Fierceton described herself as s a "queer,. And so that was when it really transitioned, the second half of it, into these really intimate questions about my abuse until the point where I was sobbing and couldnt answer the questions anymore. And theyll openly talk about this. Interesting. She helped SP2 assistant professor Toorjo Ghose draft and promote a petition in support of Police Free Penn, an activist group calling on the university to cut its ties with the Philadelphia Police Department over its poor relations with the largely black and Latin residents of the West Philadelphia neighborhoods around the university's campus, and rethink its own police department, the largest private one in the state. And did they say anything along those lines? And I asked again and just said: Ive had different experiences of harassment for the last four years at Penn. I think they have said, well, theres different definitions and the dean who is the dean of the grad school said: Well, thats not our definition. She was one of only 32 high school students selected from a pool of 2300 applicants. And one of the main things they pointed to was that she had gone to this private school . And we have this idea of what a person looks like who commits a crime or who gets arrested for child abuse. Fierceton. Fierceton was mentioned in the complaint as having experienced similar issues following her seizure; she was deposed in the suit in March 2021, the month before the university's investigation led her to withdraw from the Rhodes Scholarship. And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. Yeah. I really appreciate it. January 7, 2022. RG: And all of us, no matter what our situation, are not completely safe from it. Is it as well explored territory as a school-to-prison pipeline? She had lived with her mother since her parents divorced acrimoniously during her childhood, and a guardian ad litem was appointed to represent Fierceton's interests in the proceeding, during which abuse allegations were made. Yes, it may be true that institutions like UPenn give students like Fierceton opportunities because of their story, but that does not mean her narrative is theirs for the taking. RG: And what was the first-generation community like on campus? It was more, I think, in the times after and the months after where I ended up like giving different medical records and all of these things to corroborate my account, but there were a few questions that were very specific to what had happened. [2], Fierceton refused, and a week before she withdrew from the Rhodes Scholarship, Penn's Office of Student Conduct (OSC) notified Fierceton it, too, would be investigating. Uh, my lawyer. "We have concluded that there is a basis for serious concern and that further investigation by the Rhodes Committee may be appropriate", she wrote. She thought that he had been very quickly removed from the building. So I started while I was an undergrad and was taking classes at the same time. Teen Mom alum Mackenzie Edwards' husband Ryan Edwards is to be arrested soon. In early 2022, after stories about her struggle with Penn and the Rhodes Trust received national attention from stories in The Chronicle of Higher Education and The New Yorker, commentators took the university, and American elite higher education in general, to task for its use of the story of Fierceton and some other recent Rhodes recipients as poverty porn and its shifting definition of an FGLI student. When asked what she might have done differently, Fierceton told the Chronicle that while she had at some points wished she had never applied to Penn, and later considered rephrasing some of the things she wrote on her essays and applications, "[w]here I've landed is that I have a right to write about my experiences as I experienced them. One possible explanation for this depressing story is that Mackenzie Fierceton fraudulently accused her own mother of gravely abusing and attempting to kill her, spent 22 days in the hospital to . The article by reporter Rachel Aviv was called How an Ivy League School Turned Against a Student, and it tells the story of an extraordinary battle between Mackenzie and the University of Pennsylvania. While the investigators understood, they also wrote that the limited information she provided may have been more likely to elicit an answer favorable to her. A college counselor suggested she apply through QuestBridge, a nonprofit that helps qualified students in need find schools that will give them full financial support. RG: And I just want to read this for people. Attached were copies of the Missouri court orders expunging Morrison's arrest and removing her name from the DSS registry. And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. But I agreed to come into this Zoom meeting and this was the last day of November 2020. She didnt even know what building he had died in. Now Im sobbing, Im hyperventilating, and the staff member interrupted and said: Can we have an estimate of how much time is left? RG: Mhmm. Whereas a social worker comes into a poor home and looks around and sees just the normal poverty that our system has foisted on people and says: Oh, well, clearly this is somebody that needs to be stripped out of here. who was, I believe now, the acting provost. or in graduate school. She had had a fairly upper middle class life yet was working at multiple fast food restaurants and barely getting by. Like I just havent, really, there to be a lot of information about me publicly. Its a very different lifestyle. MF: But yeah, that, I guess, just one point of clarification that I recently, in the last few months, just found out about. Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes Scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school. And Im kind of one of the lucky ones where I had really expansive and thorough documentation for all the parts of this story. And again, people, including Penn administrators, have the perception of I think the stereotype and my friend Anea Moore, whos a Rhodes Scholar and graduate of Penn who founded Penn first or co-founded it had a really great quote in The New Yorker about we arent all, quote-unquote something along the lines of like impoverished, inner city kids who go to crumbling public schools as the wider media portrays us to be. Fierceton clarified her identity during the interview:[4]. They would not do so, however, if she agreed to withdraw from the scholarship, surrender the Latin honors that had accompanied her degree, and take a mandatory leave for "counseling and support" before receiving her master's. RG: And The New Yorker article also alluded to a few things that you had gotten loose with in a couple of paragraphs. That is when I would trace it back to. Because thats not how we understand poverty. Yeah. A week later, Brandt interviewed Morrison again at the police station; this time she said that her daughter had injured herself, saying "I guess she has more problems than I thought." What was the response from the readers of the paper? So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? It didnt, though, to the University of Pennsylvania. @RachelAviv for @NewYorker And I decided to do it cause I felt like I had nothing to lose and I ended up making gratitude lists every day for years and it really was a very healing experience for me. I think this is a conversation not necessarily for people who are still in question about what happened here. Like, it seemed like an airtight case from my perspective. But there was another definition that was also along those lines that I fit, that was, again, public on the website. Her mothers name was entered into a registry of abusers. RG: Did they make that threat in writing or was that . So you applied for your masters in social work and there was a question of whether to check the, what Ive learned is called the FGLI box: first-generation, low-income. And then instantly people started picking her story apart. I cant say how many questions are left and were close to done. And so when you applied for your masters in social worker or sociology? Its, in my opinion, because they get overlooked and the kids like me are kind of rendered invisible by the privileges of our biological families. There were some pretty basic errors, such as my name, my birth name, and my birth place, and claiming that I didnt have a sibling, that I wasnt low-income, a lot of facts that were pretty easily disputed. Fine. There was, yes, disagreement, because I said there was blood in my hair in the essay, they said there wasnt enough blood or there wasnt blood or something. MF: And that is, I felt very defeated too. She has a bachelor's degree in political science from Penn and was working on a master's in social work. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. In a 25-minute conversation, she went into detail with Fierceton about her past and what she planned to do with her scholarship. And the chain of events that happened leading into foster care? And that is, I felt very defeated too. OSC referred the recommendation to an SP2 panel to make a final determination; she has subsequently appealed the decision. Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school and scholarship applications. That would have to be the rationale that they would have for those childhood journals to be faked. And when I asked her again when I was gathering all this evidence in 2020, she gave me the same answer of: I dont believe its relevant, and this box isnt relevant to admission. Right. So [laughs] I feel like I could go on for hours about that. [2] Afterwards Morrison changed her daughter's last name to her own. Although she had not attended an orientation session for first-generation/low-income (FGLI) students she had been invited to, on campus she began attending meetings and gatherings of Penn First, an FGLI student group founded the preceding year to pressure Penn to better accommodate their needs, such as not closing dormitories and cafeterias over breaks since many FGLI students could not, for various reasons, return home during those periods. So first-generation and/or low-income, again, is the acronym. At her request Penn kept her contact information out of the school's directory on its website. In the lawsuit filed on Dec. 21, Fierceton, a 2021 School of Social Policy . in America. Her mother was arrested and charged with abuse, and Mackenzie went into foster care. Mackenzie Fierceton didn't come until much later, but with good reason. Its account focused on the Rhodes controversy, discussing her and Driver's suits near the end, and recalling some other recent instances of academic dishonesty, including one 2009 Harvard student whose largely fabricated high school records were only discovered when he had applied for a Rhodes Scholarship. And thats actually one of the things that, if there was any doubt whatsoever about this story, in some ways it was settled by that. And just Deputy Provost Finkelstein saying: No. And I think said something along the lines of there were things missing and it was distorted. I said were almost done. Yes, to my lawyer who communicated it to me. Beth Winkelstein, at the time Penn's deputy provost, signed off on her application for the school, writing that "Mackenzie understands what it is like to be an at-risk youth, and she is determined to re-make the systems that block rather than facilitate success. "While it is possible that [she] was the cause of the alleged injuries," she wrote a month afterward, "the court cannot make that finding by a preponderance of the evidence based on the evidence presented." Mackenzie Fierceton, a 2016 graduate of Whitfield School in Creve Coeur, lost the scholarship after allegations surfaced that she had provided "false narratives" to education officials, the New. Two other women he was involved with had also reported him to law enforcement). Why were you in the hospital that long? And youre getting instruction from a university official that that's how you're supposed to fill it out, that's what the definition says online. And to me, Im like I am a household of one, so I am the only person in my family. [Laughs.]. And now they have to face the fact that someone who looks like them, who shares all these identities with them, could be the source of all of this harm. I was like: Great. Mackenzie Fierceton: Yeah. But I guess I cant say for sure. I have all these three kinds of different rationale and corroborations. Picture: University of Pennsylvania/Instagram. Anything interesting in that that you noticed? They had done their own investigation again, quotes on investigation and then I had submitted over a hundred pages of documents to them. But part of it is funding decisions. Im curious, having dealt with so many people along the way, who are questioning your story, how do you feel like the boxes play into this? Since we began the Reshuffled journey, any mention of foster care grabs my attention, the same with Tracy. [2], At the beginning of April,[5] after she came to school with a black eye that showed through the concealer she put over it, she was taken to see the wellness director, who asked what had happened. And Im like: I dont know what else I could give them that would possibly convince them if their belief is as a 15-year-old, 16-year-old was journaling about my experience of abuse and hiding it in an air vent, and it was actually secretly all a plan to like accuse my mother of abuse and go into foster care so I could have a sad story. [Laughs.]. Raised in Chesterfield, Missouri, a West County suburb of St. Louis, she attended and graduated from the Whitfield School in Creve Coeur. Fierceton described herself as a first-generation college applicant who came from a low-income, foster-care background. So, I myself, had a seizure in the basement of my grad school in January, 2020, and it took over an hour to get me out of the basement because they couldnt fit a stretcher or a backboard down the stairs or the elevator. Youre engaged in a lawsuit with Penn. And if you havent already, please subscribe to the show so you can hear it every week. So these are all things Ive learned [laughs] I learned after the fact. Mackenzie Fierceton, 24, claimed she was from a poor background and grew up in foster care when she actually attended private school By Phoebe Southworth 13 January 2022 8:00pm Mackenzie. Which as Im sure youve learned since is a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of poverty . Fierceton said that when she had applied to SP2 as a sophomore she had cleared it with the school's associate director of admissions, who told her that a student's biological parents were not relevant to that definition, and said the same thing in 2020 (Penn's OSC interviewed the associate director and SP2's associate director for financial aid whom Fierceton said she had a similar conversation with; neither remembered speaking with Fierceton about the issue)[1]:111112). Mackenzie Fierceton was deposed after seeking justice for a mature student, Cameron Driver, 38. 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