Lagunitas is owned by Heinekin. This moron brewer at Lagunitis has single-handedly trashed my favorite brew by changing it into a crappy thin, acidic, hoppy glass of piss. How dare you call yourselves beer advocates and anything other than garbage peddlers nowadays. Disappointed in your version of New Castle, It is not welcome here !! The distinctive brown ale was first produced at the Tyne Brewery in Newcastle in 1927 Its Blue Star logo was put on the bottle a year later and appeared on the shirts of Newcastle United. I always enjoyed this beer every fall and winter and now its going down the drain. Is it true that HEINEKEN is producing Old Newcastle for sale in Europe but not in the USA? This new bitter Lagunitas shit is horrible and I will not be a Newcastle patron any longer! Im a fan of Boddingtons and New Castle. Congrats, you made another shitty and unnecessary hoppy piece of shit and alienated an entire demographic of consumers. Newcastle Brown Ale was my favorite beer. Newcastle was good, now I would literally buy Seltzers, Not your fathers bullshit and just plain fucking dick on a platter. Times Temple Valley brings it in at my request along with Guiness Extra Stout. I have been drinking NBA for more than 20 years. I am fulfilling my drop in the bucket, I stopped unpacking groceries to really try this and with every swig, Im like WTF? That is getting harder to find but when you do its a screw job because its bottled in 11.2 ounce bottles. Of course their sales numbers have dropped. Guess customer feed back does not mean anything to these chumps. FYSA: The USA-version of Bass Ale has been breed in New England for quite some time now. Im out! Im super sad. I hope your happy. We dont drink IPAs and this is too bitter. Cant believe they would do this Theyre losing a life-long customer in me. Who thought this was a good idea? Anbefalet serveringstemperatur: 4-6 C. Alk. This new American version sucks! But, now New Castle taste like every other IPA beer. We still get the original English brewed version in Canada. NEWCASTLE my decades-long go-to, nice down-the-middle ale when I wanted something simple and good. Exactly. Newcastle Brown Ale 5 Ltr Keg - Mild English Brown Ale. This new formula sucks and I will not buy one more drop of it. So I googled it and learned the truth. If this is the beer that Heineken and Langunitas is peddling, then they have indeed killed Newcastle. Only way they saved it was to roll back and hopefully ncb will do the same. My father-in-law is from Newcastle and was a pub landlord for over 20-years. Newcastle never again. There was uproar when production was moved south of the river, now its . The term was first used by London brewers in the late 17th century to describe their products, such as mild ale, though the term has a rather different meaning today. It is very similar to the manner that Aloha Beer has been marketed as a local Hawaiian beer although it is brewed and bottled on the mainland. You wont another from me! In 1984, the company opened the most recent bottling plant in Europe, a 3.5 million facility. I have been drinking it for around 40years. Chill to 64F (18C) and pitch yeast. Totally fooled me. Heineken ruins everything they touch. Who knew the world needed another lame hoppy beer? What you have done is absolutley ruin a wonderful recipe. I have been reading this thread for probably a year now and contributed early on and here is a solution. I thought I had gotten a bad batch (since that does happen time to time), but nope, its just that bad now. Anyways, if any of you fine beer drinkers hear of any efforts to bring the original Newcastle back, like a gofundme, march to Heineken headquarters, etc, please post here. Unfortunately, LCBO and The Beer Store are out of it and I have no idea when theyll get more in. My friends and I used to call it the creme soda of beers because of how tasty and drinkable it was. I have tried to developed a taste for it but there is no developing a taste for piss. Tried new once drank half a bottle poored the rest into the sink and never bought this shit again. Please help me find another source of quality Brown Ale. This isn't as bitter as it could be. I have been drinking it since 1975 while stationed overseas. WRONG! Drinkers familiar with Lagunitas will likely think one word for this brewery: hoppy. Shame on Heineken! #bring Newcastle back. Lagunitas ruined the once great beer. It taste like crap. Michael, I cant add to anything you said. My only complaint is that we cannot get the pint bottles here I remember drinking back in the UK. A good thing shouldnt be messed with. 1. Lagunitas are making the same mistake Coca Cola made with New Coke. Sorry. keep trying: https://www.change.org/p/heineken-usa-bring-classic-newcastle-brown-ale-back. FREE UK delivery. #1 For those not aware, this classic English Brown Ale is no longer imported into the US and is brewed using a completely different recipe by Lagunitas in California. Join me? Youre worse than a cheap whore endorsing this abomination!!! When you find a good beer that compares to the old BCA, please let me know. You just destroyed my favorite ale this tastes like shit. OMG WTF you Fd up the original.new castle. And I will not drink this nor will I EVER buy a lugintas product for the rest of my life. I thought I got a skunked bottle, which is so rare. Just had my first new Newcastle. FFS no beer drinker in their right mind in the UK would drink that mass produced rubbish. Will never buy another bottle until the recipe is changed back. You ruined the Only beer I ever enjoyed. Its not even so much that this new formula is a bad beer but Newcastle had such a unique taste and flavor and was so smooth and drinkable, and thats exactly what I wanted this early autumn evening. I kept saying, why does this Newcastle taste like shit? Dont be a non caring corporation, please go back to what worked before the move to the US. I usedto go to TGIfridays who had it on tap and it was just the best. Very Disappointed. This Policy will be referenced by all such mobile applications or mobile optimized websites. Bottom line is all that matters I see. I would be ashamed of this product. And what to my horrified taste buds appeared? The new flavor literally took away everything that made the pre-Heineken Newky worthwhile. Not only am I never buying this again, Im never buying another Heineken product again EVER out of spite! You will lose all sales and profits in this New Coke blunder. I suspect that you may be correct about the Newscastle Ale recipe not being available to Lagunitas. I suggest you pour all of it back into the horses from whence it came. Totally worth it! I wake up and its terrible!!! I totally agree. What were they thinking? The old stuff is still being made in England, maybe you managed to find an importer? Why-aye maan Really? So disappointing. This sucks! How about listen to your customers and bring back what we all loved. This going to be a new favorite and possibly my new go to brew. I called Heineken USA and they told me that everyone else in the world will still be able to enjoy the Original recipe, but we Americans get to enjoy this new recipe swill!! SO DISAPPOINTED! Why the traditional recipe couldnt make it across the pond is a mystery. Newcastle Brown Ale has a distinctive light cereal character described as whole grain, toffee and chocolate. I hadnt had Newcastle in a couple years, but was having a delicious summer dinner with a friend: I had just shucked a dozen oysyers, made a roasted corn salad, and a caprese salad from the garden, and had a taste for Newcastle. Because they marketed it as such and it costs more. AleSmith Nut Brown . I bought a twelver of New Castle, popped the top and took a swig.. then quickly spit it out! The 300,000-square-foot brewery once contained sound stages for movies (which are still filmed next door), including the Dark Knight scene where the Joker burns a mountain of money. Bring back the original PLEASE!!! And, the new packaging wasnt what I was looking for, either. We have to quit posting here and post complaints on the Lagunitas Website. RAWPRINTShop. It was a disaster! newcastle has been growing in availability and popularity in midwest now it has been changed into a mass produced overly hoppy run of the mill home brew I was really looking forward to returning to Newcastle. Louis I dont think its that bad, but I do prefer the original. Thanks Jim for the link to change.org. Why take over a classic and well-loved beer only to change it to make it more like the other stuff you brew? Suggestions welcomed. Gave it a try, hated it, they ruined one of the most unique wonderful beers in the world. With all the other BS lawsuits out there this pretty seems valid, to me?.? Following the posting of such non-material changes, your continued use of any EPGs websites will constitute your acceptance of these changes and you will be bound by such changes. Plus it has more alcohol so I am forced to drink less. 3800 King Avenue Cleveland Ohio 44114. My father-in-law (whom is no longer with us) was born and raised in the Newcastle area (Tyne & Wear). I remember my old XO and myself enjoying Lil Sumpin at a bar. But for me it was the Yuengling lager version of a brown ale. Rubbish! The old Newcastle was perfect the new Newcastle is too bitter and not evan close in taste. But the reality is this is most definitely NOT Newcastle Brown Ale and is a fraud on consumers. Supporting marketing includes social media engagements, plus new POS and on-premise materials. Who is running things over there, Al Bundy? Also Brown was never available on tap, only in pint (English pint ie 20oz) bottles. If anyone has any suggestions for something better or a better match, please feel free to reply to this note and let me know. they seem to cater to the stoner pothead crowd that doesnt mind the acrid bitterness of Chinook and centennial hops. Thanks a lot! Are you kidding me? This new stuff is a horrible!!!! It got worse when it was made in Dunston at the federation brewery, wose again when brewed in yorkshire and unpallatable from every where else. Great taste, very balanced with more malt than mellow hops, and 8%! Ill pray for Devine intervention and a return to the original recipe. I found this link from a new poster. I too gave you a year to improve it, but this is the last bottle for me. It now tastes like all the other shit beers on the market! I also know that large companies do not care about our thoughts about their products as long as the money flows. Absolutely no idea what they are doing. As far as Im concerned Newcastle Brown Ale does not exist anymore. Bottom line, I wont buy it anymore, they have lost a long term, loyal customer. The crap tasted just as I remember. Bad move Newcastle, you will be extinct in 12 months! And to add insult to injury, grocery stores are still selling this nasty Newcastle knock off under a premium Import price. I brought 6 bottles today and its as good as ever, its sad that its been ruined in the US Not anymore. LaGunitas, seriously, put a gun in your Chicagoland mouth and pull the fucking trigger for shitting on the working mans beer. Demand money back and if they refuse, remind them that they could implicated in legal action. Im switching to Alaskan Amber.a Grand substitute! What a Distinctly American Dumbshit move. Set delivery address to see local pricing. Heineken are you listening????? Anyway, one final comment. WTF I had my first Broon Ale in the UK in 1978. Shame on you despicable people producing such dross. Bad business bad marketing decision. They say they didnt deviate that far from the original recipe. No more Newcastle for me. If its not broke dont try to fix it! And charge the same price as if were an imported beer? The Hoppy-ness tastes like cat urine. It just looks wrong in brown bottles. Complete failure. I bought a second one a couple weeks later and it was NASTY. Bring back the original. The complete destruction of a great beer with the replacement having no character and an insult to the original. Not anymore!!! Too thick and caramely. Now I cant even finish one! If you think these guys are going to revert to the old recipe just because you and a few thousand others complained, youre just barking at the moon. queendifabfinds (4,847) 100%. Hes not an outright liar, he just believes his own bs. Bring back the old Broon Ale as this relaunch is awful! Way to f*** it up Lagunitas! Very disappointed. I am so disappointed in the new taste AND the new bottle. #newcastlealefail. How DARE you call this garbage Newcastle?!? Guess when I get up there Ill have to stock up to fill the spots formally filled with real New Castle Brown Ale. Lagunitas would have been better off developing their own English brown ale and selling that, rather than sully the name of what was once a cracking beer by peddling its corpse. You guys are freaking hilarious! I dont understand the Big FUSS over IPAs. I poured the other 11 bottles down the drain. Only beers I found that compares were Moose Drool from Montana and Alaskan Brown Ale, neither of which are available in my area. Dont beg them to reinstate the original recipe. I likely will not ever even try this new brew! I too was a big time Newcastle fan. May your taste buds stop working (I suspect that they already have). Saw teh label had changed wondered what was up. I agree with everything that has been said. This new beer should not be called Newcastle. Im trying to be nice Cancer be damned. Why else would they change what they themselves call an iconic beer? I can only wish they go broke! Extremely disappointed customer. Five days later, Newcastle United were crowned league champions - their last league title to date. You killed my favorite beer Bass Pale Ale has been destroyed by AB-Inbev too. Gagged on the first swill what the hell?!?! What marketing geniuses you are! The new one sucks. It went down hill when it was brewed in Dunston at the federation brewery. Bad business decision because your core Newcastle lovers are what keeps your sales up. The whole point of enjoying original (imported from Holland) Newcastle, was the flavor and followup. Dont change your fomula. The package looked different, but I didnt think much of that. Maybe it doesnt taste like the original, I dont remember Ive never been an avid NBA drinker, but its fine for what it is. The best tasting beer, I loved so much Why did they change the recipe??? The term brown beer was first used by London brewers in the late 1600s to describe their products, such as mild ale. BAD DECISION. This new crappy recipe should not be identified under the original NBA name because it misrepresents the original product. (Thank the gods, the craft brew houses in America have saved the working mans taste buds.) At first I thought the beer had turned skunky unintentionally but once I found out why it broke my heart. You ruined my favorite beer, never buying your crap again!! Laguntas and Heineken you should be ashamed of yourselves. My long time favorite beer changed their label. Newcastle had a distinctive individuality. Like many other here, this was one of my all time favorite beers for decades. Ive always thought Heineken beer, in its green bottle, was one of the skunkiest tasting beers around. A deplorable move! Idiots! I did not realize that it would be the last Newcastles I would ever drink. I took one tastethe rest went down the kitchen sink. Whats the point? I will not buy new castle ever again unless they bring back the original. I got it at locally (BevMo, RiteAid) in the past 30 days. Newcastle is Newcastle. https://isitbigbeer.com/brand/heineken. For Gods sake. The taste will never be the same as the pulled down scottish and newcastle brewery. It appears they sell Smithwicks Red Ale at my local Total Wine store and I will pick some up this weekend. Fire the dumbass who thought changing the recipe was a good idea. Nothing wrong with chicken but I wanted a Fucken Steak. The provisions of this Policy apply to all such mobile access and use of mobile devices. Found some local breweries here in NM that have taken the place of the crapcastle now made by Lagunitas. There are always 2 or 3 bozos chiming in who claim to like the new stuff better, and they are the only people that get responses from the overlords. I know that our comments are often disregarded and dumped into the waste basket. Trying a few we can report back. This is absolute garbage!!! I suggest to focus on finding and recommending those and not worry about you can not change. Smithwicks is SO good. A candy, banana fruitiness is also present. Never buying it again. While there, we cleared several pitchers of Newcastle Brown Ale. Fraudulent comes to mind Maybe it is time to move-on. So very disappointed.. From my first swig, it tasted wrong and not how I remembered, and my friend soon concurred that theyd changed it. Fullers is still brewed in the original location and style. The best thing that can be done is to sign this, https://www.change.org/p/heineken-usa-bring-classic-newcastle-brown-ale-back. Though not brown you might want to try AndyGator. This recipe is nowhere near as smooth as it used to be. I bought all six, the lady in the area, when queried said, they came from our distributor. She was vague about who the distributor was but said shed ask again. This stuff sucks. This Crap Sucks!! To the people who did this if you have a favorite restaurant, I hope it goes out of business. Like buying a Corvette then popping the hood and seeing a 4cyl in it, def false advertisement. If you do not continue to use the EPG websites following a change to our Policy but take no other action with respect to your personal information, our use of that information will remain subject to our Policy as it was in effect prior to the change. The new stuff tastes like horse sweat. This stuff brewed by Lagunitas is crap that tastes nothing like real Newcastle, but rather a dirty ashtray. I actually like Lagunitas generally, but I do not like this new NewCastle. . Bring back the real Broon! I miss the old recipe, and I wish it was back to that, but its not terrible. Like another commenter said, if the packaging is different, and the recipe is different, can you really call it the same beer? What contact addresses did you use? Why did Heineken think that they knew better? [] Ale have changed hands faster than Watford football managers. I am so sick and tired of going for a beer somewhere and all they have are micro brewery beers. My favorite beer for so many years! Die horrible fucking deaths. Newcastle Brown Ale has taken a meta approach to advertising ahead of the Super Bowl. Newcastle Brown Ale 121 Results ale brown bier Spiral Notebook By ercedeswood $13.16 $16.45 (20% off) Shearer 9 Raised Arm Celebration Sticker By FootballArcade From $2.52 Brown Ale Newcastle Sticker By otirno From $1.35 Classic Newcastle subbuteo team design Sticker By Subsnapper 73 From $1.68 Newcastle Brown Ale Sticker So thanks NC Brown for forcing me to diversify my tastes a little and forget about you. This is a complete travesty. Lets all do the same. I will not be drinking this pig swill from Lagunitas that is masquerading as Newcastle Brown. Newcastle Brown Ale is smooth, crisp, and slightly roasty because it is brewed with a unique blend of pale and roasted malts and American hops. I have been drinking the one and only for over 25 years.I cant stomach this bitter, hoppy taste labeled as Newcastle.it is not Newcastle! Not drinking the new crap!!! Hey EVERYBODY!!! Its nice to know i am not the only old fart that still remembers the original Newcastle brown (i can even spell it as one word). mtn MegaDork 2/7/20 1:31 p.m. The sad truth is that the new owners dont care about our opinions. Why would Heineken be stupid enough to allow some dim bulb, wannabe brewer, to tinker with the recipe? By the look of these comments, New Castle will be a thing of the past! I agree with you 1000%!! Wellbeen more than a year and the new New Castle Brown STILL SUCKS! Yield: 5 Gallons . 4.7% ABV, IBU 27, 130 Calories Product information Feedback The worse thing about this bastard of a classic is that I paid money for it, only to dump it. Spot on commentary! Then I ran to the computer to discover the horror that they changed the recipe! This type of thing is happening everywhere. New Castle came in a clear bottle, if you got a 12 pack which packaged the bottles out of the light, it was the nectar of the gods, bottles buried in ice it was the ultimate summer beer. Newcastle WAS one of the best beers and quality beers I have ever had the pleasure to drink.. this is pure SHIT!!! I told my wife tonight I will be looking for another beer to enjoy. Check Availability. Agree with all the posts. Still have to say after years, how disappointing it is to have all of these comments and no change by the brewer, not even comments that I have see. Over 20 years I have been a Newcastle Brown Ale fan. WTFingF?!? If you told me the original was toxic Id drink it over this SHIT. Read his recent piece 8 Craft Beer Trends in 2019. Terrible. This is fraud. Copying here. The flavor change occurred around 2018 when Lagunitas took over the brand and ruined it with their master brewers hoppy recipe reformulation. Not anymore. Can you say New Coke. Take the name off the bottle bc this shwill is not anywhere near the Newcastle I used to like their beer, but its horrible now.. will not be buying it since they ruined by letting this company put their own spin on a classic recipe. Glad Im not alone in this. It should be either renamed or taken off of the shelves. It is so far from the original. Damon ) turned me onto , now its like all the other crap in a bottle in the states. It has a very bitter after taste like an IPA. What a disappointment. From 1927 to 2005 it was brewed at The Tyne Brewery in Newcastle I could be wrong, but it seems like bad business to discontinue a successful product line that seems to be profitable in favor of an untested poorly conceived bad idea that is doomed to failure from the beginning. I called Lagunitas to ask if they had finally got the brew formula back to original. What a high recommendation it is not terrible! Tastes like someone threw an old grapefruit in it along with a dash of dawn dish soap. Kind of bland, so less likely to nauseate non-fans; and, I suspect, made to drink chilled for the US palate. Good lord, why? Shame on you, Lagunitas, for ruining a beer that has been part of so many fond memories for me for decades. They ruined Newcastle. But in England, Newcastle Brown Ale is still pretty much the []. It could have been millions or more. Fuck You Lagunitas! The old recipe did not leave an after taste. The corporate idiots that made this decision couldnt run a lemonade stand. Weak af. Maybe there will be something come along tgat is not tied to Americas youth lovimg hoppy beer. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. This crap doesnt deserve to even be called Newcastle Brown Ale! I used to import it in China at great expense because I loved it so much. You cant even feel good that the lable is the same, at least that is the first warning. It tastes plan, missing all the magic that was in the original recipe. Brown ale is a style of beer made with a dark or brown malt. Thanks real Newcastle for 20 great years of great ale. By no means am I disparaging lemonade stand owners with that comment. Living in Hawaii means that not every beer type is available to us here, not to mention the cost. Bring back the OG Old Castle!!!! The new recipe is garbage. Im going to Canada to get some to bring back. Will never buy either beer again: unless the old one is brought back. For the past three decades, Newcastle Brown Ale has been my favorite adult beverage. Its hard to find a brew with the fresh clean finish a NCBA bottle had. Here is a tip.not everyone likes hops! Customer loyalty is your brand!!! How rare it was in those days. The amateurs at Lagunitas think they have their finger on the pulse of ale drinkers, but clearly they do not. Newcastle Brown Ale is a beloved English beer, known for its distinctive flavour and amber hue. Who cares, your still making money and if selling elsewhere, then why not keep importing it to the US? Newcastle Brown Ale brewed by the Lagunitas Brewing Company will be relaunched in March 2019. I agree with every one who posted above me. If I was a huge fan of IPAs then I wouldnt have been a loyal supporter of traditional Newcastle for all of these years and ENGLISH ale. I have been a fan until this. We have told them for years now and they dont even have the courtesy of responding to the community. I agree 100% I will not never buy new castle beer again unless I can get the old one.the new one tastes like shit. If I wanted a nasty IPA, Id buy one. Michael Jackson the beer writer and absolute authority on everything beer is rolling over in his grave. This new beer tastes like crap. I hate how they ruined my favorite beer. The new packaging is lame, but whatever. Way to go Lagunitas, youve ruined one of the last great beers of the world. Even the label wants no part of it! I, and I imagine other previous Newcastle drinkers feel the same way. The term brown beer was first used by London brewers in the late 1600s to describe their products, such as mild ale. Well they managed to ruin my favorite beer, thanks for nothing! I saw the new packaging and was excited! Jeremy Marshal should be ashamed of himself. Completely ruined it. Well my decades long favorite Ale Is now some hoppy swill with a bad after taste. May all of your beer sour and rot to non-consumable standards.oh wait, it already has. Lagunitas Newcastle sucks. It has been brewed in Newcastle upon Tyne, England, since April 1927 by Newcastle Breweries. Not that any are exactly like it, but some I can find and are good in Smithwicks, Fat Tire, Yuengling Black & Tan, Big Storms Wavemaker are a few. See new coke I could not commenting on how good it tasted. I fell in love with NBA about 30 years ago and am mortified at the new taste. I was having the hankering for a New Castle. I also really loved to get it in the mini keg when available and have it on draft. Newcastle used to be a unique good beer. How about keeping the original receipe and new one, calling this other junk New Castle Light Brown. Colloquially known as 'Newkie Brown', Newcastle Brown Ale was launched in 1927 by Colonel Jim Porter with UK sales peaking in the early 1970s. Any suggestions? Our brewmaster blah blah blah. The american beer market is a hyper-hipster fad fest at this point. At least have the decency to dump the trademark the one and only, thats now a lie. This is no different than throwing Camaro labels on a Camry and calling it a Camaro. 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