In 1938 new technical conditions #2088 for M91/30 stocks production were adopted, but no change to the finish was introduced. The ones I have are Russian built M91/30 Stocks ONLY. However, in 1942, their machining was much less accurate compared to prewar handguards. Unlike the 07, 38, 91/38 and 91/59 this carbine is fitted with a side folding bayonet. Now what would a late ww2 stock look like? Mosin Nagant M91/30 Bayonet Adapter - Bayonet NOT included, Mosin Nagant Scout Scope Mount - Mount Only, Mosin Nagant M91/30 Bayonet Steel Handle - Bayonet NOT included, Original Finnish M39 Mosin Nagant Leather Sling - Surplus Condition, M91/30 Mosin Nagant Stock Set, Complete, Used Surplus, Good Condition, Mosin Nagant Rifle 91/30 M44 Stock 1" Rubber Recoil Butt Pad - BT007. The Tula factory #314 NKV stopped M91/30 production in 1940 and switched to SVT-40 production, Izhevsk factory #74 NKV had no major changes in the sling slot construction until the beginning of WWII. See it. On the left - Izhevsk factory V-shape joint, on the right - dovetail joint on a postwar Arsenal #1 produced birch laminated stock. The Mosin Nagant is a Russian bolt action rifle that was first produced in 1891. by SA1911a1 Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:02 am, Post You'll need to choose between a gloss or satin finish. In 1940 drawings were changed, the size of the cutout was increased. No screws. A correct conclusion about a stock's production period can be made after detailed inspection of all the aspects listed below. They were immediately introduced into production. Clean off the sanding dust (a damp rag works best at this stage). All Rifles, Firearms, Mosin Nagant. They contained list of neccessary operations and requirments for produced parts, they markings, finish, interaction. Boys, he is in for it now. Hell it was always hard times in Russia. " After 1500 to 2000 grit sandpaper, move to the Dremel and polishing compound. If that doesn't work you can apply a new layer of shellac. Generally, you should double the grit when you move up. It's unclear when, but in the 1930's Soviets managed to replace the imported "Cologne earth" with a chemically synthesized equivalent, this significantly improved supply. In the rush of things many parts of the process were eliminated, some stocks from that time period will have no rear escutcheon, and just a flat metal plate in the front one, or nothing there either. Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. All rights reserved. Please See other items . These stocks had wrist bolts for preventing cracks in this area. by steelbuttplate Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 am, Post 91/30 Stock New Old Stock $ 49.95 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt head - Bare $ 15.00 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Bolt Stop Screw $ 3.00 Add to cart; Mosin . 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Before you start refinishing, you should decide what you want your rifle to look like. Start with 2000 grit and polishing compound. In the very beginning of production the factory had some problems with finish quality, it was flaky, but thenthe experiments showed that application of vaseline oil (translation from Russian, in English - "Liquid paraffin") improved thequality of the VK-1 finish., and it was introdusced into production, 1941 Izhevsk stocks with VK-1 laquer finish. The surfaces do not need to be perfectly smooth. 15-4314xq. Details about stocks with a toe splice will be provided below. The most common chambering of the Mosin-Nagant is 7.62 Russian, which is a dandy hunting round. by qz2026 Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:05 am, Post If possible, test it in an inconspicuous place on the stock. by steelbuttplate Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:21 pm, Return to Collectible Mosin Nagant Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. This will help determine how much time, effort and money you'll need to put into the project. Grip Parts. Boyds Classic Camo Stock Mosin Nagant 91-30/t53/m-38/m-44 53 Rifle Boyds Classic is a compilation of the design elements found to be the most elegant and user friendly examples of the classic style. Milled steel type with slot. Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. Yet, in its stock configuration, the Russian bang stick isn't the most wieldy field rifle. They were not produced within the borders of the USSR, production dependedon import supplies. There are two kinds of people, the good people and the ones that aggravate the hell out of the good people". First, inspect the chamber and make sure the rifle is not loaded. But repair depots also produced some accessories and rifle/carbine parts. Sold Out. You guys are funny33 mosins My number I've had is at least twice that, about half I don't have anymore. Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. Kingston, NY 12401 Phone: 866.686.7424 Fax: 877.486.7278 In 1930 the sandal wood stain was replaced with tar ("" in Russian, different types were used), shellac finish and BLO were still used because their replacement was not found. You should follow the directions for whatever finish you use. Before you start sanding, it's important not to sand any surface that's critical to the proper and safe operation of the rifle. However, please did not accept this version as completely correct, merely a theory. One is a 1924 Ishevsk hex and the other a 1942 round receiver which has the hammer and sickle and down below the date a small triangle with arrow. Nov 30, 2008. 4.2 out of 5 stars 915. Since at least the mid 1920's stocks were soaked with hot BLO (the earlier period will requiredeeper research). According to the very first M91/30 drawings, handguards were made from birch or walnut and had brass caps, locked with brass or copper rivets (both were allowed). Don't nominate yourself for a Darwin Award. Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver Rifle, 7.62x54R, Tula 1939, C&R, VG, Used. Both dont have the square with diagonal line indicating a refinished stock. Numrich Gun Parts Corporation Of course, there are many other ways to refinish a Mosin stick, but this method seems to be very easy and produce good results. Steel, black oxide, very solid. Kingston, NY 12401, 2023 Numrich Gun Parts Corporation. using 100 to 180 grit. Instead of solid barrel bands,barrel bands with a button connection, designed by I. Fedortsev, were introduced. Mosin Nagant cleaning Kits. Sand out gouges, saw marks, etc. There are also some other minor differences in the stocks between the prewar and wartime (no metal, just a slot in the wood) so if you're trying to put together a "replica" prewar . 1924 Tula dragoon M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1924 Izhevsk dragoon M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1924 Tula infantry M91 stock, sandal based wood stain, 1929 Tula dragoon M91 walnut stock, sandal based wood stain, 1928 Tula dragoon stock, beizen wood stain. Don't sand too much and only use 1000 grit sandpaper or higher on these areas. Pressed rear front half liner from 1943. Mounting a scope on to your Mosin Nagant may not always be as simple as installing one on to other types of commercial rifles. Izhevsk factory completely switched to thenew type in 1934, Tula - in 1935. I started with 90% rubbing alcohol and green scrubbing pads. They can be steamed out with a wet cloth and an iron. There is a belief about the existence of "early" Soviet laminated stocks from beech wood (they exist only in M38 and M44 carbinestocks configuration). as low as $79.49. Copyright 2022 Classic Firearms, LLC. Accessories . Band Retaining Springs 5.00 specify model . Sometimes traces of the Tula and Izhevsk factory markings can be found near a "box with cross line" marking, this means that the stock was repaired by Arsenal #1. You may need to carefully tap them out of the stock. Polishing is a process that can require quite a bit of time and patience. A few repair depots marked their stocks with their emblem (on the right side of the buttstock) - stocks with a "25 in star" marking (Central Artillery armament base in Omsk), and with a crossed box marking (Arsenal #1, Donguzskaya railway station, since 1944 - Balakleya) are quite common. Any dust that lands on the poly before it's dry will become embedded - and that makes it difficult to get a nice, smooth finish. More Details Buy. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. Shellac can be repaired fairly easily, but I wanted a tougher finish. Screwed in escutcheons-1941 and earlier. There wasn't any area on the rifle without machining marks, pitting, dings, and all sorts of other imperfections. by Junk Yard Dog Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:15 pm, Post One of the main four parts that were changed in M91/30 production compared to late dragoon M91'swere barrel bands (The other three parts were the front sight, rear sight and bayonet). You can make your first post here! Extremely Popular and Highly Desirable M-44 Mosin Nagant Carbine Rifles. Use tape to mask anything you don't want to paint (like inside the chamber and barrel), and spray on a thin coat, let dry and repeat several times. Flaky finish on postwar refurbished rifles is the result of application issues during the refurbishment process, or use of old. I never bother with it, but if you want to invest some time doing it now, you might save a little time later sanding the finish smooth. So a "box with cross line" at the buttstock of the majority of the stocks indicates that the it was produced by Arsenal #1. MOHAA Player. The surfaces on my Mosin were so full of machine marks and dents that they were impossible to completely sand out. In the late 1880s, the Russian Empire was in dire need of a new service rifle after having been equipped with Berdan single shot rifles for such a long time, which was a major contributor to heavy casualties in recent wars with the . I am not responsible if you break something or injure someone. Watco danish oil can create a fairly good finish. If temperatures get above 90 or the humidity falls under about 30% then the poly can dry so fast that it becomes difficult to apply. The finish was not changed until the end of M91/30 and M44 production in the late 1940's . FEATURED LONG GUN Italian M91 CarcanoGET YOURS, Limited Edition "Alien Green" 30 Round AK-47 MagazineGET YOURS. by steelbuttplate Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:46 pm, Post According to "Technical conditions #1525", dried stock blanks (6-8% humidity) were polished, painted (with "beizen" stain), soaked wit BLO or tar, and covered with 8 layers of shellac lacquer and varnish. Im already eyeing another hex receiver.lol. After stripping the shellac and de-greasing. Afterwards,they were covered with lacquer and varnish. NOS unused pair left and right. The temperature should be above 60 degrees F, otherwise the poly will take several days to dry (during which time it will collect a lot of dust). Price $22.95. 1943 Tula stock with screwed in sling slot inserts. I am not a gunsmith. 1924 Izhevsk dragoon stock with a factory made toe splice (dovetail joint). Overall length is 40.4 inches, barrel length is 20.47 inches, front sights are wire pin post, rear sights are graduated 100 to 1000 meters. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. The new color came out very close to the original color (before any work was started on the stock). Or fastest delivery Feb 15 - 17 . October 31, 2019. The basement on the Mosin-Nagant is three, some places four times what it was a few years ago. total length 28 1/3", folded length 18 ". 1941 M91 Finnish Mosin Nagant (29 picture virtual tour) Observations: (by "Claven2") Note: Pics of rifle provided courtesy of Milsurps.com moderator Claven2. Pull the trigger and slide the bolt back and out of the receiver. Mosin Nagant Band Spring, Rear Our Price: $12.50 . The Izhevsk factory produced the milled type until mid 1941, they switched to thetamped type only in the Autumn of 1941. Until 1945 there was no production of laminated stocks (despite some online sources claiming otherwise). Other parts can be sanded smooth to improve the operation of the bolt. Comes in a set of 4, with threads and flat head intact. For more polishing information, refer to my revolver polishing guide. Rough wartime replacement stock made by an unknown repair depot. 23. Soak the metal in oil as soon as you finish the bluing process. If you post a Mosin sniper rifle here, we may or may not move it to the sniper forum. Since the late 1940's replacement stocks were made by only one repair facility - Arsenal #1 in Balakleya, Ukrainian SSR. Sand with 220 to 320 grit until nice and smooth. Use light pressure until all the existing scratches are gone and the surface has an even finish. Postwar stocks had full metal sling slot inserts (factory #536 NKV in Tula type), stamped barrel band slings and oval cutouts forthe barrel band release (sometimes similar shape cutouts were added to the stocks of other manufacturers during refurbishment). They seem to be sold out everywhere and seem to be going up in value every year. You can use either heat or a solvent to remove cosmoline. Showing all 3 results. If you plan to use your Mosin from a concealed position, you probably won't want to polish the bolt and create a reflective surface. However, Arsenal #1 is the only recorded depot that rarely placed its marking on some heavily refurbished/repaired stocks from other manufacturers. During the 1930's-1940's, the Tula and Izhevsk factories stock finish had little differencein details. Nosecaps have two production variations - one is a milled type, the other is stamped. We sell Mosin Nagant Monte Carlo stock kits designed for the Russian M44 carbine, the Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifle, the M59, M38 7.62x54R rifles. Next, use 400 - 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. This rifle looked like it was made in a high school metal shop class, then taken out and beaten with an ugly stick by half the Russian army. Email. Made For Rough And Tactical Situations Triple Riveted Construction Vintage Broken In Look Color Brown/Burgundy Made In The U.S.A. According to the MSDS it contains acetone, methanol and toluene. Menu. $789.95. If so, you'll have to remove it. Some of these were related to stock production. Parts of the bolt can be polished to a beautiful mirror finish. In the late 1920's a new wood stain was introduced, made on the base of a so called "Cologne earth". All Rights Reserved. The poly is going to smell a little funny for a few days as it dries. These small screws tend to get lost during refinishing or maintenance. Typical mid/late 1930's Tula stock. Certain Mosin Nagants can be much more valuable than the run-of -the- mill, gun show rifle. Strip all the oil out of the metal. When Finland gained independence at the end of the Finnish Civil War in 1918, captured Russian M91 infantry rifles were available to the fledgling government in relatively large numbers . M44 Cleaning Rods 15.00. 1st is a. Judging from surviving samples, at least in. The Mosin-Nagant rifle is a bolt operated, magazine fed rifle. In the Autumn of 1941 the Izhevsk factory introduced a few simplifications into productionthat were related to stockhardware. M91/30. Some people may feel that shellac is more appropriate for a Mosin, but polyurethane is easier to apply and much more resistant to solvents, water, abrasion and pretty much everything else. Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30 bolt action rifle in 7.62x54R caliber. The majority of postwar stocks made by Arsenal #1 were made from birch, rarely from beech. First, inspect the chamber and make sure the rifle is not loaded. Both have NO escutcheon inserts My questions are what plant would the 1942 be from? My stock didn't have much grain, so dying wouldn't be much better than staining. Mosin Nagant 91 Front band Retaining Spring N91024 $4.00 Mosin Nagant 91 Accessory Kit N91052 Contains: 2 ammo pouches 1 soft pouch 1 sling 1 oiler 1 combo tool 2 jags and a few assorted parts $22.95 1 review (s) Mosin Nagant 91 Lower band Retaining Spring N91022 Size 1 3/4 " $4.00 Mosin Nagant Original Double Spout Oiler N91050 $3.95 M1891 Cleaning Rods 15.00 NOT AVAILABLE. Unclear which wood stain was used - color is too brown for sandal wood stain, and too light for a tar. If you decide to remove them, it's easier to do it before disassembling the rest of the rifle. This is the time to repair any dents in the stock. Action Parts. The Best Mosin Nagant Modern Stocks in 2022 It requires that you remove two screws, and slide off two barrel bands. by Junk Yard Dog Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:46 am, Post Front half liner and rear slot 1942/43. The stockand handguardclassification on this page is based upon their construction elements description and their changes. Like it came off the Russian assembly line 70 years ago? I decided to finish with polyurethane. Other features include Monte Carlo-style 3M Soft Touch Cheekrest Pad. Mosin Nagant Show Filters . Most there wasn't much wrong with them. For example, the majority of stocks at the newly created factory #536 NKV in Tula, which started production inFebruary 1942, were issued without a lacquer finish. Maybe next time I'll try some liquid bleach. It has made its way to the United States in mass numbers through international arms dealers after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. I think I said the same thing and qualified my statement that, indeed, pressed escutcheons were used towards the end of the war. Model 1944 Mosin Nagant - Manufactured by Russia during and after WWII, Hungary, Poland, and Romania after the war. The rifle was originally made with a hex receiver. Previously toe splices in stock construction were mentioned. Any major difference between those and the post war versions? Curse as you fight with the bands and gouge the stock with a screwdriver trying to pry them forward. Browse our selection of popular Mosin Nagant accessories 91/30 M44 stocks and Mosin Nagant parts for sale. BLO, soaking/tar were still used. by Igrlik Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:18 pm, Post This is the first Mosin I've restored, so I'm not an expert and I can't compare all the possible restoration techniques. Continue the previous few steps of applying poly and gently sanding until you achieve the desired finish. Timney is the market leader for Mosin Nagant replacement triggers. Get some of the best Mosin Nagant aftermarket parts to upgrade your Mosin rifle Pu sniper scope with mounts for your surplus Mosin Nagant M91/30. All sorts of odd combinations like screwed in early style on the rear, nothing on the front, and so on. Onthe top - prewar stock, on the bottom - wartime Izhevsk stock with notch. 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