The prosecution alleged that Patricia called the Katrinaks house from a pay phone in Pennsylvania. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. And she will have to answer eventually. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Police arrest woman in 3-year-old case of slain mother and child After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Jul 11, 1929 - Sep 10, 2011 (Age 82) Plant Memorial Trees Opens send flowers url in a new window Lie detectors are pseudo science. You are absolutely right. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been jailed in . Required fields are marked *. Cop defends accused. Walmart woe. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Taking into account various assets, Andrew's net worth is greater than $25,000 - $49,999; and makes between $50 - 59,999 a year. . Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Please subscribe to keep reading. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. Andrew Tate moans 'they won't let me leave' in prison rant after 'lung Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? NO SIGN OF MISSING CATASAUQUA WOMAN - The Morning Call If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! No explanation given. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! And the obvious answer is not as you claim. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Flaw in reasoning. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. And NOBODY saw her at all? I cant lose them, he told the media. At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Teresa Jean Katrinak, 56 - Loveland, CO - Has Court or Arrest Records Hege said Rorrer's baby is with her mother, Patricia Chambers of Lexington. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. Both were deceased. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. Puny policy. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. By. However, Romanian officials have refused the request, saying he can be attended to in Romania. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. M.L. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Media galore. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). You know whats interesting? Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Family members found Joanns tan Toyota sitting vacant in the parking lot of McCartys, a nearby bar. The first rule of a murder is motive. Accused of two murders, she will be extradited to Pennsylvania today. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. They broke up in 1993. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. Great communicator. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. I would have liked better her being put to death! As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. One insider said: 'Andrew is insisting on having a job despite being made to stand down from his duties and now he's being kicked out of his home,' according to The Mirror. Andrew Tate 'seriously ill' as leaked medical record hints at lung you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. It was Mr Tates third appeal against his detention since his arrest. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Patricia Rorrer: Guilty Or Not?. The FBI declared the strongest piece This is the most ridiculous take ever! Judge Douglas Reichley heard arguments on the motion for post-conviction relief but did not issue a timeline for making a ruling, according to the Lehigh County District Attorney's Office. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Prince Andrew demands mansion 'fit for a king' as top royal Now, there are suggestions the family's solution to Andrew potentially losing his home could be to move him into the 'nest egg' Fergie purchased as an investment for their daughters, Princess Beatrice, 34, and Princess Eugenie, 32. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. . All Filters. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. We lived close to one another. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. I dont think so. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. He retired as a general foreman at Bethlehem Steel in 1981 after 30 years of employment. Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Crying and distraught, she asked him to get in touch with her boyfriend, Ward and ask him to bring her extra underwear and socks. A Patent Pending People Search Process. Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. Andrew Katrinak. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. Had there been a switch? I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Wow. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Phone records dont lie.) Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. They had 7 children: Eleanor Dorothy Thornberg (born Katrinak) and 6 other children. Stable situation. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. How is it that these women are paroled? And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. Andrew Katrinak Obituary (2004) - Bridgeport, CT - Connecticut Post According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Look into it. Very similar. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. And I have absolutely no sympathy. You can cancel at any time. Formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, Rorrer was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when . However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. Search is on. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. I thought the same. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. I dont think so. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. Its totally irrelevant. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania.
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